For every event, there is a protest...

[sgrizzle]

http://kotv.com/news/popular/?id=139208

quote:
American-Indians Plan Protest Of Centennial Celebration
AP - 11/5/2007 3:13 PM - Updated 11/5/2007 4:05 PM

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- A group of American Indians are planning a protest during next week's celebration of Oklahoma's centennial.

Brenda Golden of the Muscogee Creek Nation helped organize what is being called a "survival walk" to remind people of what happened to Native Americans.

Golden says she wants to bring awareness to what American Indians lost with the settlement and statehood of Oklahoma.

The protestors plan to carry a banner reading "Why Celebrate 100 Years of Theft" and will gather November 16 at 9 a.m. in northwest Oklahoma City and march to the state Capitol.

November 16 is the 100th anniversary of Oklahoma becoming a state.

[Conan71]

Sore losers....

[Neptune]

Heh, I'm glad they're doing it.  They certainly have a right to protest.  I think their motives, which seem to be of the educational variety, are reasonable.

It's interesting, going back to the Nation-State concept, if that's what we're all about, we should at least cough up a country for them.  How about, say, Oklahoma!

[RecycleMichael]

Very interesting concept...seceed from the United States and keep our life in Oklahoma run and financed by tribal law.

First, we are going to need our own currency.

[Ibanez]

To be fair most of them aren't exactly the original inhabitants of this area either. Now if the Commanche, Caddo, Quapaw, Wichita and Osage wanna complain about their land being stolen by the other tribes and the white man I'll listen.

[Conan71]

What's the latest line on how many people will march?  My bet is in the 50 to 100 range.

[sgrizzle]

To be honest, it was only a few years of theft, 90-someodd years of possessing stolen merchandise.

[Breadburner]

They "took it" from somebody to.......

[cannon_fodder]

Here is my take on the entire Indian situation:

Tribes screwing other tribes certainly predates anything else but... The Europeans systematically screwed the Native Americans.  That continued after the US was in charge.    Essentially they lost the war and the USA took whatever we wanted, mirroring the previous 15,000 years of human history.

However, at this point I have paid fair price for everything that I have.  None of my ancestors were even here to screw the Indians and thus my family as no stolen wealth.  That wealth that was stolen has likely bee squandered.

At what point do you decide to relegate transgressions to the past and try to move forward?

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Here is my take on the entire Indian situation:

Tribes screwing other tribes certainly predates anything else but... The Europeans systematically screwed the Native Americans.  That continued after the US was in charge.    Essentially they lost the war and the USA took whatever we wanted, mirroring the previous 15,000 years of human history.

However, at this point I have paid fair price for everything that I have.  None of my ancestors were even here to screw the Indians and thus my family as no stolen wealth.  That wealth that was stolen has likely bee squandered.

At what point do you decide to relegate transgressions to the past and try to move forward?

We're gonna have to call Jesse and Al to get an answer on that. []

[Neptune]

Aw, screw it.  Just give them Oklahoma.


It ain't worth much anyway.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Neptune

Aw, screw it.  Just give them Oklahoma.


It ain't worth much anyway.

Eh, they are already taking it back one sick gambler at a time.

[tim huntzinger]

I think it is awesome.

[Conan71]

Really Tim?  Take a look at the improvement for all tribal members due to annexation of Indian lands.  The same people who are protesting benefit from our roads, our schools, developments in medicine, jobs outside tribal interests, etc. ad nauseum.

[Double A]

Maybe if the folks running this centennial celebration didn't try to shove some sanitized, disneyfied, historical revisionist account of what exactly we are celebrating in regards to statehood and the centennial down peoples throats they wouldn't be protesting. It never ceases to amaze me how big plates of dysfunction smothered in denial keep getting served up, as the Chefs scratch their heads wondering why people won't shovel it down with a smile and ask for seconds. I plan on being there.