Downtown Stadium Plan by May 30th

[cannon_fodder]

World Article
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=20080122_1__Mayor23086

quote:ayor Kathy Taylor and Driller's owner Chuck Lamson will announce today that they have entered into an exclusive agreement to negotiated a deal to bring the baseball team downtown.

The location for a city-owned stadium is in the East Village, the recent site of two previously announced projects that fell through -- a Wal-Mart Supercenter and prior to that a privately-owned baseball stadium.

The exclusive agreement legally binds Lamson to negotiate only with Tulsa until May 30 at which time a definitive agreement must be reached.

The agreement prevents Lamson from further talks with Jenks developers, with whom he signed a non-binding agreement last fall for a proposed baseball stadium in a riverfront development.
(continues...)

[cannon_fodder]

So there is an exclusive window of 4 months for the city to make a plan to bring a stadium downtown in the East End somewhere.  They don't know when.  They don't know how much it will cost. They don't know how it will be funded.

Thanks for the excitement.  At east you're interested in downtown and baseball.  But I feel a bit let down.

Plans for downtown seem to often fail anyway, what chance does a plan for a plan have?

oh, and I'd like the plan for a plan to include a plan for the soon-to-be abandoned Drillers stadium.  The city seems to be getting into the abandoned building business lately.

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

So there is an exclusive window of 4 months for the city to make a plan to bring a stadium downtown in the East End somewhere.  They don't know when.  They don't know how much it will cost. They don't know how it will be funded.

Thanks for the excitement.  At east you're interested in downtown and baseball.  But I feel a bit let down.

Plans for downtown seem to often fail anyway, what chance does a plan for a plan have?

oh, and I'd like the plan for a plan to include a plan for the soon-to-be abandoned Drillers stadium.  The city seems to be getting into the abandoned building business lately.

current stadium is on County land, so it's not the City's deal.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

So there is an exclusive window of 4 months for the city to make a plan to bring a stadium downtown in the East End somewhere.  They don't know when.  They don't know how much it will cost. They don't know how it will be funded.

Thanks for the excitement.  At east you're interested in downtown and baseball.  But I feel a bit let down.

Plans for downtown seem to often fail anyway, what chance does a plan for a plan have?

oh, and I'd like the plan for a plan to include a plan for the soon-to-be abandoned Drillers stadium.  The city seems to be getting into the abandoned building business lately.

This is being done to delay Jinx from going forward with the drillheads. Pretty obvious.

The ole Sutton Stadium will be used for the relocation of the flea market....Randi Miller will figure sumthin out.

[tulsa1603]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

World Article
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=20080122_1__Mayor23086

quote:ayor Kathy Taylor and Driller's owner Chuck Lamson will announce today that they have entered into an exclusive agreement to negotiated a deal to bring the baseball team downtown.

The location for a city-owned stadium is in the East Village, the recent site of two previously announced projects that fell through -- a Wal-Mart Supercenter and prior to that a privately-owned baseball stadium.

The exclusive agreement legally binds Lamson to negotiate only with Tulsa until May 30 at which time a definitive agreement must be reached.

The agreement prevents Lamson from further talks with Jenks developers, with whom he signed a non-binding agreement last fall for a proposed baseball stadium in a riverfront development.
(continues...)

I would love to see something come of this, but it seems like "plans" or in this case "plans for plans" come out every few months and rarely come to fruition.....I won't be holding my breath.  It does give me some hope that the Drillers seem to want to stay in Tulsa, though.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE


current stadium is on County land, so it's not the City's deal.

Good call Joe.  Still, I'd like to see SOME plan for it.  Expo Square has been a roll even after losing Bells, but I'd like to keep it up!

[izmophonik]

It looks like the Tulsa World leaked the story.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080122_1__Mayor23086

[Ibanez]

What an underwhelming announcement.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

It looks like the Tulsa World leaked the story.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080122_1__Mayor23086

You just posted the link that was at the beginning of the thread.

I am more confident in this plan than previous ones. The global plan looked awesome, which might be why it failed.

[safetyguy]

Maybe Jenks can convince MLS to bring soccer to town since Tulsa never will... []

[inteller]

ok, so essentially Krazy Kathy got a gag order until the end of may.  BFD.  Jenks and Lamson have already spoken enough that Jenks can continue on with plans.  When June 1 rolls around and Tulsa has nothing to show for Lamson will say "FU I'm going to jenks"  (well maybe he wont say that, but I would).

So Tulsa has 4 months to come up with a proposal that doesn't cost more than Jenks.  That means finding a developer who is willing to gamble and then securing a TIF.  Any burden they try to foist on taxpayers will be shot down in a bigger ball of flames than the river tax because unlike then, people KNOW there is a cheaper solution.

Yeah, good luck with that KK.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

So there is an exclusive window of 4 months for the city to make a plan to bring a stadium downtown in the East End somewhere.  They don't know when.  They don't know how much it will cost. They don't know how it will be funded.

Thanks for the excitement.  At east you're interested in downtown and baseball.  But I feel a bit let down.

Plans for downtown seem to often fail anyway, what chance does a plan for a plan have?

oh, and I'd like the plan for a plan to include a plan for the soon-to-be abandoned Drillers stadium.  The city seems to be getting into the abandoned building business lately.

"So there is an exclusive window of 4 months for the city to make a plan to bring a stadium downtown in the East End somewhere.  They don't know when.  They don't know how much it will cost. They don't know how it will be funded."

No wonder you are feeling a little let down.  Didn't we recently have a similar scenario with the county and a "big plan"?

[ttownclown]

quote:Originally posted by safetyguy

Maybe Jenks can convince MLS to bring soccer to town since Tulsa never will... []

That's a great idea- something similar to Pizza Hut Park in Frisco, TX would work great in Jenks' new development. -Just as the stadium in Frisco, it could also double for High School Football/Soccer/Concerts.

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by ttownclown

quote:Originally posted by safetyguy

Maybe Jenks can convince MLS to bring soccer to town since Tulsa never will... []

That's a great idea- something similar to Pizza Hut Park in Frisco, TX would work great in Jenks' new development. -Just as the stadium in Frisco, it could also double for High School Football/Soccer/Concerts.

Good guess!  

Yes, the Jenks group intends to continue with the development of the stadium, with or without the Drillers.  It will serve for far more than just baseball.

[sgrizzle]

Jenks could go outdoor ampitheater...

Please?