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Started by cannon_fodder, January 22, 2008, 12:32:44 PM

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chlfan

quote:
Originally posted by godboko71

Maybe it will be the KOTV, or the Griffin Communications Stadium.

Either way interesting times lay ahead or downtown.

Hopefully they utilize the stadium for things other then baseball to increase over all revenue during the year.



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What's new on the stadium?

brunoflipper

ok, somebody cough it up...

word on the street is its a done deal...
come on, let us see it...
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sgrizzle

Different word than I've heard. I've heard "mostly" and "pretty much" but not "done."

Renaissance

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

ok, somebody cough it up...

word on the street is its a done deal...
come on, let us see it...




That's the sum total of what I know.  

But there's a bit more that can be guessed at between Lamson's statements to various parties and the KOTV report.  Lamson's comments to the YP group that the financing would be private and there would be no vote, plus the fact that KOTV, which happens to own land it will soon be vacating adjacent to the site, got a scoop, means something.  If it isn't going to a vote, it can't be a hotel room tax increase, so the public funding will mostly likely come from tax increment financing.  A TIF does not work unless there is new development nearby.  This is where the KOTV land comes into play.  I would guess that, once the city had its exclusive negotiation period, some third-party developer took interest and brought a plan for development adjacent to the stadium to Taylor and Lamson.  I would expect that this third party has been acquiring options to the surrounding land--the non-stadium city stuff, the KOTV block, and the Global Development block.  These options will be contingent on the city approving the TIF.

Just guess work.  Who really knows?  Some on this board, but their lips are sealed.

sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

ok, somebody cough it up...

word on the street is its a done deal...
come on, let us see it...




That's the sum total of what I know.  

But there's a bit more that can be guessed at between Lamson's statements to various parties and the KOTV report.  Lamson's comments to the YP group that the financing would be private and there would be no vote, plus the fact that KOTV, which happens to own land it will soon be vacating adjacent to the site, got a scoop, means something.  If it isn't going to a vote, it can't be a hotel room tax increase, so the public funding will mostly likely come from tax increment financing.  A TIF does not work unless there is new development nearby.  This is where the KOTV land comes into play.  I would guess that, once the city had its exclusive negotiation period, some third-party developer took interest and brought a plan for development adjacent to the stadium to Taylor and Lamson.  I would expect that this third party has been acquiring options to the surrounding land--the non-stadium city stuff, the KOTV block, and the Global Development block.  These options will be contingent on the city approving the TIF.

Just guess work.  Who really knows?  Some on this board, but their lips are sealed.



The land being acquired isn't just the 4 blocks needed, Bill White said he wanted to sell out to the city, that is a lot of developable land around the stadium. Also, the left outfield is a hotel if you look at the sample drawings.

If this is going to be donation/TIF then lets raise property taxes for roads and the hotel/motel tax for mass transit (bus/rail/helicopter/whatever)

brunoflipper

#231
my guess is that it is privately funded (and theres  a tif), manhattan construction is building it and it includes two new hotels... but that is just my guess...
"It costs a fortune to look this trashy..."
"Don't believe in riches but you should see where I live..."

http://www.stopabductions.com/

RecycleMichael

I went to three of the first six game homestand and now three so far of the current eight game homestand. The team looks pretty good. They have some decent pitchers and lots of speed in the outfield. Tomorrow night is the first fireworks game of the season. We will probably go, but might just listen to am1430 till it gets to the eighth inning and then go park in Lowe's parking lot.

It will be great to have the games downtown. I sure hope it happens. Downtown needs a couple more hotels too.
Power is nothing till you use it.

USRufnex

#233
"Chuck Lamson to the white courtesy phone please... Mr. Lamson to the white courtesy phone..." [?]

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9963

Gaspar

#234
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I went to three of the first six game homestand and now three so far of the current eight game homestand. The team looks pretty good. They have some decent pitchers and lots of speed in the outfield. Tomorrow night is the first fireworks game of the season. We will probably go, but might just listen to am1430 till it gets to the eighth inning and then go park in Lowe's parking lot.

It will be great to have the games downtown. I sure hope it happens. Downtown needs a couple more hotels too.



The fireworks this year are amazing!  I took my family and expected a nice quick display after the game, and was blown away!

You are so close to them that you can feel the heat!  It was really nice!

. . . . . . 18 days until the announcement. . . . . .
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Renaissance

15 days till the tipping point for downtown . . .


TeeDub


Where is the plan...  they only have a week left?   Right?

chlfan

quote:
Originally posted by TeeDub


Where is the plan...  they only have a week left?   Right?



Right left.
Onward through the fog.

sgrizzle


cannon_fodder

up up
down down
left right
left right
B A
B A
Select (two player)
start.

Name the games that applies to.  Wait, don't.  

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