Downtown Stadium Plan by May 30th

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by JoeMommaBlake

I'm still wondering what happened to the proposed site in the "east village."

I went to the TYPROS thing with Lamson and it seemed like this was the spot.

I still think it's the best spot. The rationale I heard that night from someone was that the stadium and the arena would "book-end" 5th street to allow for an established commercial corridor. I think that sounds great. . . plus the land it would be built on is arguably the ugliest part of downtown....so it wouldn't suck to bulldoze it.

Seriously, I'm still waiting on somebody to explain what has changed here and why.  Too many winks and nudges, not enough hard rumor. []  That site made all the sense in the world.  The only other site that makes sense is the Hartford Buidling area but that would include closing 2nd street.  So confused . . .

[OkieDiva]

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

[cannon_fodder]

+1 on the industrial site near OSU being too far out to be any good for this project.  If the idea is to help frame downtown that site will do nothing but further isolate it.  Plus, there is no room for development next door nor anywhere for that development to attach to/glean from on non-game days.  May as well rebuild at the Expo grounds.

[stymied]

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by stymied

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

The trucking company site that Kaiser is rumored to have bought on Main in the Brady District?

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by stymied

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

I'm gonna call BS until I see it due the lack of available large enough property in that area. You need a superblock for a stadium

[dbacks fan]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by stymied

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

I'm gonna call BS until I see it due the lack of available large enough property in that area. You need a superblock for a stadium

I have to agree. I did some measuring with Google Earth of the existing stadium and got a perimeter of about 2300 feet. The foot print of a good size stadium is probably, and I'm guessing at this moment, 36,000 square feet, or to close to 3/4 of an acre. The perimeter around Chase Field here in Phoenix is roughly 3100 feet. As for TFD Station 1, I don't think it would go away, it may, and I mean "may" be relocated but there will always be a station in that area of downtown. The station off of the BA and Denver is not enough to cover it's own area and the majority of downtown. JMO the area between 3rd and 6th and the IDL and say Elgin or Frankfort is to me ideal. JMO.

[RecycleMichael]

I believe stymied knows of what he speaks.

Why he taunts us with clues is another story.

[CoffeeBean]

quote:Originally posted by stymied

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

So the left fielder will be looking directly into the sun?

[RecycleMichael]

I hope they incorporate a big grassy area in the outfield where people can spread out like a picnic.

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

quote:Originally posted by stymied

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

So the left fielder will be looking directly into the sun?

Can't aim a field that way.  Against the rules.  Go to MLB site and download field orientation rules.  Nice try!

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by dbacks fan

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by stymied

quote:Originally posted by OkieDiva

Turn on Channel 6... where Scott Thompson now sits will be within spitting distance of home plate. KOTV has broken ground on a new station northwest, between Spaghetti Warehouse and Mexicali. TFD HQ no longer needed due to new city hall. What else is over there to demolish? Heck, if they plan right there will even be an "adult bookstore" - what husband calls the best looking building in downtown - right outside the front gates. And beer bars within walking distance. It's a hardcore ball fan's dream come true....

Saw the new design, new location.  Let's just say that a few foul balls may land on KOTV's new roof.  The park is actually facing slightly SE, but will still have stellar views of DT.

I'm gonna call BS until I see it due the lack of available large enough property in that area. You need a superblock for a stadium

I have to agree. I did some measuring with Google Earth of the existing stadium and got a perimeter of about 2300 feet. The foot print of a good size stadium is probably, and I'm guessing at this moment, 36,000 square feet, or to close to 3/4 of an acre. The perimeter around Chase Field here in Phoenix is roughly 3100 feet. As for TFD Station 1, I don't think it would go away, it may, and I mean "may" be relocated but there will always be a station in that area of downtown. The station off of the BA and Denver is not enough to cover it's own area and the majority of downtown. JMO the area between 3rd and 6th and the IDL and say Elgin or Frankfort is to me ideal. JMO.

You have to agree? He is talking about it being in the brady district and you're agreeing by talking about the east end.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I hope they incorporate a big grassy area in the outfield where people can spread out like a picnic.

they have that in San Diego, and it is very friendly oriented.  I think it's 5 dollars a person, and families can bring blankets, food, etc.  Nice setup they have out there at Petco.

[Kenosha]

quote:Originally posted by twizzler



The Texas Rangers' stadium faces the same direction.

http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/tex/ballpark/tex_ballpark_seating.jsp

Good to know they are planning to incorporate the view of DT. That alone will be worth the price of admission.

Dont forget PNC Park (New Pittsburg stadium) and  US Cellular Field (White Sox)...both line up SE.

[Chicken Little]

In addition to the three that Kenosha and Twizzler mentioned, other SE facing ballparks include:  Comerica Park (Detroit), Miller Park (Brewers), Great American Ballpark (Reds).

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/stadium/ballpark_NSEW_AL.shtml