Downtown Stadium Plan by May 30th

[RecycleMichael]

These guys...

http://www.hok.com/cfm/ProjectArchive.cfm?Tag=Sport%20Venue%20Event

[chlfan]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichaelThese guys...http://www.hok.com/cfm/ProjectArchive.cfm?Tag=Sport%20Venue%20Event

Same guys who did One Technology Center (the new City Hall) huh?

[RecycleMichael]

They have done buildings and sports stadiums all over the world.

[USRufnex]

HOK's Minor League Ballparks:
http://www.hoksport.com/projects/portfolio_milb_all.html

Selected projects:
http://www.hoksport.com/projects/index.html

***if memory serves, this site in the Brady District is really close to the original location (same spot?)  discussed/rumored for the Vision2025 Major League Soccer stadium that didn't make the list of projects back in June 2003...

It's reasonable to think it could connect Blue Dome and Brady... and may actually connect to within a block or two? of Gypsie coffeehouse...

[TheArtist]

Interesting.

I really dont care what style it is, just as long as it has some style. Something artistic and not boring. Art-Deco or completely modern, or heck both.

I really like these designs that they have done.

http://www.hok.com/cfm/ProjectDetailArchive.cfm?Tag=Sport%20Venue%20Event&projectID=43&TagList=Architecture%5ESport%20Venue%20Event%5EAmericas

http://www.hok.com/cfm/ProjectDetailArchive.cfm?Tag=Sport%20Venue%20Event&projectID=49&TagList=Sport%20Venue%20Event%5EAmericas

Their Busch Stadium isnt bad, but it really just looks like any other brick baseball stadium. I can imagine that they go with brick with this new stadium, but you can do some really neat stuff with brickwork to give a unique deco look.  Whats frustrating when you ask architects to do something with a deco twist though is that they say something to the effect,,, oh we dont want to do something in an old style, thats been done before, you want to do something fresh. But then they turn right around and do something in brick and put hints of older, classic, styles in it (Busch Stadium). Why art-deco cant be considered in the same way, I dont know.

[dsjeffries]

They only did the lighting and streetscaping for Busch Stadium, not the stadium itself... so don't blame them for the nostalgic, All-American, cookie-cutter stadium design.

[Oil Capital]

HOK designed Busch Stadium as well as the lighting and streetscaping.

quote:Originally posted by dsjeffries

They only did the lighting and streetscaping for Busch Stadium, not the stadium itself... so don't blame them for the nostalgic, All-American, cookie-cutter stadium design.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Oil Capital

HOK designed Busch Stadium as well as the lighting and streetscaping.

quote:Originally posted by dsjeffries

They only did the lighting and streetscaping for Busch Stadium, not the stadium itself... so don't blame them for the nostalgic, All-American, cookie-cutter stadium design.

I've seen Busch Stadium up close, and that is a beautiful ballpark.

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by dsjeffries

They only did the lighting and streetscaping for Busch Stadium, not the stadium itself... so don't blame them for the nostalgic, All-American, cookie-cutter stadium design.

Funny... when all the concrete donut multi-purpose stadiums were being replaced by these new retro-styled ballparks, the prevailing thought was good riddance to the soulless cookie-cutter stadiums from the 1960s. Now the new parks are being called "cookie cutter".

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by dsjeffries

They only did the lighting and streetscaping for Busch Stadium, not the stadium itself... so don't blame them for the nostalgic, All-American, cookie-cutter stadium design.

Funny... when all the concrete donut multi-purpose stadiums were being replaced by these new retro-styled ballparks, the prevailing thought was good riddance to the soulless cookie-cutter stadiums from the 1960s. Now the new parks are being called "cookie cutter".

Yeah, I would disagree with that characterization to the extent that it negative.  When it comes to baseball, "nostalgic" and "all-American" tend to be good things.  Certainly it's "fan pleasing."

[TheArtist]

What I meant to get at was that we could have a nostalgic design thats not cookie cutter. An art-deco twist to the brickwork would help make our stadium stand out and say "Tulsa".  If your going to use brickwork and have classic elements anyway, might as well play up that Tulsa character. It wouldnt take any real extra effort or money to do it that way and the people of Tulsa would reeeeeally appreciate it.  

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

What I meant to get at was that we could have a nostalgic design thats not cookie cutter. An art-deco twist to the brickwork would help make our stadium stand out and say "Tulsa".  If your going to use brickwork and have classic elements anyway, might as well play up that Tulsa character. It wouldnt take any real extra effort or money to do it that way and the people of Tulsa would reeeeeally appreciate it.  

+1

[PonderInc]

I agree.  When I think of Tulsa, I think of all our amazing downtown architecture (at least what remains of our amazing downtown architecture...). A stadium that pays tribute to our deco heritage would be fantastic!

[chlfan]

How about moving the Golden Driller down to the new ballpark and replacing it with a supersized QT mug at Expo Square?

[mrB]

He doesn't need to move, just needs his new shirt from the new boss!