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Started by RecycleMichael, January 29, 2008, 03:51:27 PM

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FOTD

CF....do you bet?

Based on your logic, there should be just even odds on all competitive sports and no point spreads.


FOTD

Cun't figure this out....ACDC must need material for her act.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
February 1, 2008
Coulter wants Clinton over McCain
Posted: 12:55 PM ET

Ann Coulter said Thursday she'd back Hillary Clinton over John McCain.
(CNN) — In the latest sign that a conservative backlash is starting to build against John McCain, conservative commentator Ann Coulter said Thursday she is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton over the Arizona senator in a general election match up.

Speaking on Fox's "Hannity and Colmes," Coulter took aim at the GOP frontrunner, and suggested he was little more than a Republican in name only.

"If you are looking at substance rather than if there is an R or a D after his name, manifestly, if he's our candidate, than Hillary is going to be our girl, because she's more conservative than he is," Coulter said. "I think she would be stronger on the war on terrorism."

Coulter took aim at McCain's positions — particularly his fervent anti-torture stance — and said he and Clinton differ little on the issues. Coulter also said she is prepared to campaign on Clinton's behalf should McCain win the party's nomination.

"John McCain is not only bad for Republicanism, which he definitely is — he is bad for the country," she said.

Coulter is the latest high profile conservative to express dismay with McCain's surging candidacy. Talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday McCain's rise was the product of a 'fractured' conservative base and an "uninspiring" GOP presidential field.

"He is not the choice of conservatives, as opposed to the choice of the Republican establishment — and that distinction is key," Limbaugh continued. "The Republican establishment, which has long sought to rid the party of conservative influence since Reagan, is feeling a victory today as well as our friends in the media."

McCain has long been at odds with conservative members of his party. — Exit polls from the early-primary states have shown the he has consistently lost among those primary voters who identify themselves as conservative. But he passed a key test Tuesday in winning Florida's primary, the first early contest that only allowed registered Republicans to participate.

Reacting to criticisms from his party's most conservative quarters, McCain told the San Francisco Gate Thursday, "I'll continue to reach out to all in the party, try to unite the party, until everybody realizes that the only way we're going to defeat the Democratic candidate is through a united party."

Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Cun't figure this out....ACDC must need material for her act.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
February 1, 2008
Coulter wants Clinton over McCain
Posted: 12:55 PM ET

Ann Coulter said Thursday she'd back Hillary Clinton over John McCain.
(CNN) — In the latest sign that a conservative backlash is starting to build against John McCain, conservative commentator Ann Coulter said Thursday she is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton over the Arizona senator in a general election match up.

Speaking on Fox's "Hannity and Colmes," Coulter took aim at the GOP frontrunner, and suggested he was little more than a Republican in name only.

"If you are looking at substance rather than if there is an R or a D after his name, manifestly, if he's our candidate, than Hillary is going to be our girl, because she's more conservative than he is," Coulter said. "I think she would be stronger on the war on terrorism."

Coulter took aim at McCain's positions — particularly his fervent anti-torture stance — and said he and Clinton differ little on the issues. Coulter also said she is prepared to campaign on Clinton's behalf should McCain win the party's nomination.

"John McCain is not only bad for Republicanism, which he definitely is — he is bad for the country," she said.

Coulter is the latest high profile conservative to express dismay with McCain's surging candidacy. Talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday McCain's rise was the product of a 'fractured' conservative base and an "uninspiring" GOP presidential field.

"He is not the choice of conservatives, as opposed to the choice of the Republican establishment — and that distinction is key," Limbaugh continued. "The Republican establishment, which has long sought to rid the party of conservative influence since Reagan, is feeling a victory today as well as our friends in the media."

McCain has long been at odds with conservative members of his party. — Exit polls from the early-primary states have shown the he has consistently lost among those primary voters who identify themselves as conservative. But he passed a key test Tuesday in winning Florida's primary, the first early contest that only allowed registered Republicans to participate.

Reacting to criticisms from his party's most conservative quarters, McCain told the San Francisco Gate Thursday, "I'll continue to reach out to all in the party, try to unite the party, until everybody realizes that the only way we're going to defeat the Democratic candidate is through a united party."




McCain has always made efforts to be inclusive and work with members of both parties.  I guess that hurts some ultra-conservatives!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

FOTD

Wonder if Rush will do the same...sure won't hurt Obama.

cannon_fodder

Gaspar, I'm fairly liberal on several things (immigration, gay marriage, religion) but on other things I fault McCain.  One, there is no legal precedent for Writ of Habeas for combatants.  

Secondly, no one should talk about energy independents or rising gas prices when they voted to further restrict domestic drilling and/or allow more refining capacity.  Or at least provide a viable alternative (nuclear presumably).  The US has more oil under federal control than Iraq but we can't touch it... we don't really need the 2 or 3 Trillion dollars nor do we really care about energy independence (could go on and on).

I don't know who my horse is.  If I was voting Democrat it would be Obama just for the fact that I loath Hillary and am inspired by Obama.  Libertarians will not be allowed to run a candidate again it looks like.  So as a default Republican I'm torn between McCain (like his stance on immigration and the need for defense), Romney (best economic ideas) and Ron Paul (mostly to spite the establishment as all his good ideas are offset by totally wack job ones).

At the moment, I'm leaning towards Paul just to show I'm not happy with the status quo (if he had a chance of winning I would probably not vote Paul).
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I crush grooves.

RecycleMichael

My advice to republicans...don't vote for president. Your guy can't win and your choices are all flawed.

Send a message to the national party.

Better choices or we stay home.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Gaspar, I'm fairly liberal on several things (immigration, gay marriage, religion) but on other things I fault McCain.  One, there is no legal precedent for Writ of Habeas for combatants.  

Secondly, no one should talk about energy independents or rising gas prices when they voted to further restrict domestic drilling and/or allow more refining capacity.  Or at least provide a viable alternative (nuclear presumably).  The US has more oil under federal control than Iraq but we can't touch it... we don't really need the 2 or 3 Trillion dollars nor do we really care about energy independence (could go on and on).

I don't know who my horse is.  If I was voting Democrat it would be Obama just for the fact that I loath Hillary and am inspired by Obama.  Libertarians will not be allowed to run a candidate again it looks like.  So as a default Republican I'm torn between McCain (like his stance on immigration and the need for defense), Romney (best economic ideas) and Ron Paul (mostly to spite the establishment as all his good ideas are offset by totally wack job ones).

At the moment, I'm leaning towards Paul just to show I'm not happy with the status quo (if he had a chance of winning I would probably not vote Paul).



I know!  It's really disappointing.  RM may have a point.  I certainly won't stay home on election day, but I bet a lot of Republicans will.  

I think a strong 3rd party candidate could totally upset the apple cart at this point!  I'm always willing to listen to a candidate that is actually saying something, but no one has peeked my interest.

I have usually voted Republican, but not because I have some attachment to that party, I try to ignore party affiliation and vote according to the candidate that makes the most sense and has a clear plan with goals that I agree with.  This has typically put me behind a Republican (except for that one time I threw my vote away on the little general).

I would vote Democrat, if there was a candidate that made a lick of sense, but there's not.  If I had to vote as a Democrat in this election, I think I would vote Obama too, because Hillary has no clear plan and has already proven she can produce failure.  At least Obama hasn't produced anything as silly as Hillary's health care plan yet.

I'm still up in the air, but I hope that Romney can pull it off.  I'd be more comfortable with him than McCain.  I respect McCain but I think the country needs a business person, not a politician.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Gaspar, I'm fairly liberal on several things (immigration, gay marriage, religion) but on other things I fault McCain.  One, there is no legal precedent for Writ of Habeas for combatants.  

Secondly, no one should talk about energy independents or rising gas prices when they voted to further restrict domestic drilling and/or allow more refining capacity.  Or at least provide a viable alternative (nuclear presumably).  The US has more oil under federal control than Iraq but we can't touch it... we don't really need the 2 or 3 Trillion dollars nor do we really care about energy independence (could go on and on).

I don't know who my horse is.  If I was voting Democrat it would be Obama just for the fact that I loath Hillary and am inspired by Obama.  Libertarians will not be allowed to run a candidate again it looks like.  So as a default Republican I'm torn between McCain (like his stance on immigration and the need for defense), Romney (best economic ideas) and Ron Paul (mostly to spite the establishment as all his good ideas are offset by totally wack job ones).

At the moment, I'm leaning towards Paul just to show I'm not happy with the status quo (if he had a chance of winning I would probably not vote Paul).



I know!  It's really disappointing.  RM may have a point.  I certainly won't stay home on election day, but I bet a lot of Republicans will.  

I think a strong 3rd party candidate could totally upset the apple cart at this point!  I'm always willing to listen to a candidate that is actually saying something, but no one has peeked my interest.

I have usually voted Republican, but not because I have some attachment to that party, I try to ignore party affiliation and vote according to the candidate that makes the most sense and has a clear plan with goals that I agree with.  This has typically put me behind a Republican (except for that one time I threw my vote away on the little general).

I would vote Democrat, if there was a candidate that made a lick of sense, but there's not.  If I had to vote as a Democrat in this election, I think I would vote Obama too, because Hillary has no clear plan and has already proven she can produce failure.  At least Obama hasn't produced anything as silly as Hillary's health care plan yet.

I'm still up in the air, but I hope that Romney can pull it off.  I'd be more comfortable with him than McCain.  I respect McCain but I think the country needs a business person, not a politician.



What if Bloomberg decided to toss his hat in?

FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

My advice to republicans...don't vote for president. Your guy can't win and your choices are all flawed.

Send a message to the national party.

Better choices or we stay home.



Couldn't have said it better myself!
McCaint as Dr. Strangelove!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqtL-P8kzo


cannon_fodder

I think he could get my vote.  I'm not as familiar with him as the other candidates (obviously) and can easily spot issues I disagree with him on.  But overall I think he'd get my vote (socially liberal, economically conservative, and moderate in most areas).



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I crush grooves.

Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Gaspar, I'm fairly liberal on several things (immigration, gay marriage, religion) but on other things I fault McCain.  One, there is no legal precedent for Writ of Habeas for combatants.  

Secondly, no one should talk about energy independents or rising gas prices when they voted to further restrict domestic drilling and/or allow more refining capacity.  Or at least provide a viable alternative (nuclear presumably).  The US has more oil under federal control than Iraq but we can't touch it... we don't really need the 2 or 3 Trillion dollars nor do we really care about energy independence (could go on and on).

I don't know who my horse is.  If I was voting Democrat it would be Obama just for the fact that I loath Hillary and am inspired by Obama.  Libertarians will not be allowed to run a candidate again it looks like.  So as a default Republican I'm torn between McCain (like his stance on immigration and the need for defense), Romney (best economic ideas) and Ron Paul (mostly to spite the establishment as all his good ideas are offset by totally wack job ones).

At the moment, I'm leaning towards Paul just to show I'm not happy with the status quo (if he had a chance of winning I would probably not vote Paul).



I know!  It's really disappointing.  RM may have a point.  I certainly won't stay home on election day, but I bet a lot of Republicans will.  

I think a strong 3rd party candidate could totally upset the apple cart at this point!  I'm always willing to listen to a candidate that is actually saying something, but no one has peeked my interest.

I have usually voted Republican, but not because I have some attachment to that party, I try to ignore party affiliation and vote according to the candidate that makes the most sense and has a clear plan with goals that I agree with.  This has typically put me behind a Republican (except for that one time I threw my vote away on the little general).

I would vote Democrat, if there was a candidate that made a lick of sense, but there's not.  If I had to vote as a Democrat in this election, I think I would vote Obama too, because Hillary has no clear plan and has already proven she can produce failure.  At least Obama hasn't produced anything as silly as Hillary's health care plan yet.

I'm still up in the air, but I hope that Romney can pull it off.  I'd be more comfortable with him than McCain.  I respect McCain but I think the country needs a business person, not a politician.



What if Bloomberg decided to toss his hat in?



I would have to consider it.  I think he has the potential to strip votes from both parties.  I would want to analyze his positions.  As it stands, I don't know enough about his critical positions.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

tim huntzinger

Powell/Bloomberg '08!

Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

And from the scum that gave us 8 years of Bu****:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080201/ts_alt_afp/usvotenader_080201152658



LOL!
I think he's almost necessary.  He just strips the crazies out of the party.  He keeps the radicals from messing up the numbers.  You should thank him.  

Reflects better for the Democratic party when the people dressed in clothing made from their own hair arrive at the polls to vote for Nader rather than Hillary or Obama.

Nader is like the fuel filter on your car. Keeps dirt from burning up your engine!

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

tulsacyclist

I'm pretty certain Huckabee has no fans here on this board but I did attend the Huckabee campaign stop out at the airport today. There was a great turnout there, packed house with young and old alike. Good times.