Smoothing out brookside

[sgrizzle]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080205_1_A12_spanc00817

quote:
Motorists in Brookside can expect smoother ride

by: BRIAN BARBER World Staff Writer
2/5/2008  12:00 AM

Brookside motorists who have felt some dips as they drove along Peoria Avenue are getting a smoother ride.

City officials are working with designer Howell & Vancuren and a new contractor, W.M. Couch, to fix to the buckling of the bricklike pavers in the street.

After some design changes, crews have been working Sunday afternoons on Peoria between 33rd and 38th streets to make repairs, said Paul Zachary, the Public Works De partment's deputy director of engineering.

The scheduling is intended to avoid further disruption of the area's businesses, he said.

"At a minimum, they will be working each Sunday through February to get it done," Zachary said.

The pavers, which are in periodic lines, were installed as part of a $1.4 million street improvement project funded through the 2001 third-penny sales tax.

The original construction work was done between March and November 2006.

But some of the pavers that are directly in the traffic path began to buckle.

After they were replaced and the problem continued to occur, officials knew that a design change was needed, Zachary said.

No additional taxpayer money is being spent on the project, which is protected under a maintenance bond.

Pavers also were used on downtown's Main Mall, but they were installed differently, Zachary said.

How differently can you install pavers?

[cannon_fodder]

Well, I imagine it was with a different substrate but there are many different ways to install pavers.  Most of Europe has the narrow edge up - the broad side showing is the "cheap" way of doing it.  You can install with mortar, sand, or no filler (smooth edge bricks, not rounded).  Then, as I mentioned, there are different ways of laying substrate and way so laying the brick IN the substrate.

No expert, but done it a time or two.

Anyway, what I don't understand is that we have been using Brick for street pavers for about a hundred year... how come this contractor didn't have it figured out yet?

[Breadburner]

Taint the pavers...It's whats underneath....

[FOTD]

There's a right way to do things and then there's the city's way to do things.

[Breadburner]

It's all in the prep...You get what you pay for with illegal workers......

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

It's all in the prep...You get what you pay for with illegal workers......

Unless you have proof that the people that installed this were here illegally, take that cr*p to the "Political Fight Arena".  If you do have proof, and you haven't told anyone, I guess that makes you a felon.

[cannon_fodder]

I actually drove down that street every week day when they were working on it.  I can attest that there was not a disproportional number of Hispanic workers there.  Of those that were there, I do not know their legal status - I have yet to be able to distinguish citizenship on looks.  Well, except for Canadians, who for some reason have beady eyes and their entire heads open when the speak.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

It's all in the prep...You get what you pay for with illegal workers......

Unless you have proof that the people that installed this were here illegally, take that cr*p to the "Political Fight Arena".  If you do have proof, and you haven't told anyone, I guess that makes you a felon.

That was before the bill was passed.....heh...

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

It's all in the prep...You get what you pay for with illegal workers......

Unless you have proof that the people that installed this were here illegally, take that cr*p to the "Political Fight Arena".  If you do have proof, and you haven't told anyone, I guess that makes you a felon.

That was before the bill was passed.....heh...

Okay...you got me.  See you in the cagematch area.[]

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

It's all in the prep...You get what you pay for with illegal workers......

Shameful. Must not understand constructive process.

[tulsascoot]

oh crap here we go again.

While you all are on the subject, are there any contractors here who have successfully hired a crew that was exclusively white and/or black. Is that possible anymore?

[perspicuity85]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

It's all in the prep...You get what you pay for with illegal workers......

Yeah, because all construction workers are Hispanic...  And all Hispanics are illegal...

Even if the workers are illegal, do you think we could finish every construction job demanded in this country if there were no immigrant workers?

And didn't I see you on South Park?  You were that guy yelling "they took ar jobs!"

I'm all for doing things the legal way, but the prevalent stereotypes and radical immigration policy in Oklahoma are bad for business, both in terms of human capital and marketing.

[YoungTulsan]

Wouldn't you just need something sturdy underneath them for them not to collapse?

(No engineer here, just a thought?)

[EricP]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

Wouldn't you just need something sturdy underneath them for them not to collapse?

(No engineer here, just a thought?)

(Gasp) What!? Nah! Cars can drive on sand just fine. []

[Townsend]

Beating a dead horse but I drove over the brick crosswalks again this afternoon and they're getting worse.  Is the contractor supposed to repair them after the construction is done on South Brookside by Charleston's?

edited spelling error