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Beyond Super Tuesday

Started by pmcalk, February 06, 2008, 05:06:38 PM

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pmcalk

While we could start a new thread for each state, I thought this would be easier.

Next up for the Democrats:
Louisiana primary on Saturday, Nebraska & Washington Caucuses on Saturday (Feb.9)--Obama should do very well in Louisiana.  Because Nebraska & Washington state are caucuses, he has an advantage there as well.

Sunday--Maine caucus.  Does anyone really live in Maine?  I have no idea, but I'll say Obama because it's a caucus.

Next is the Potomac primaries--Md, Va, and DC.  He'll definitely win Md. & DC, and probably Va.  

He needs to do well in those states to push him to Texas, Ohio, & Pennsylvania, where Clinton has the advantage of early organization.
 

FOTD

This thing boils down to Texans!

And Ohio? The fix is in.

Oh no.......the Republicans are gonna get their wish.

Time for a thinking peoples' revolution!

RecycleMichael

I think Hillary will do way better in caucuses (cauci?) this weekend than she did in yesterday's.

Obama won all seven of the caucus states yesterday. They were mostly in states (Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, New Mexico) where Hillary didn't campaign much in because she was focused on the big city delegates.

She did lose the other two state caucus (Minnesota and Colorado) that had big cities and the first caucus in Iowa.

I think Obama was better in the caucus format yesterday and his campaign worked the strategy perfectly. But don't believe that just because it is a caucus, Obama will win. Now that Hillary can focus on those few states, I believe she will make adjustments.

This thing is like a football game. We are now at halftime, with big states still in play. Pennsylvania, Texas and Ohio are the next biggest states and Hillary won easily in New York and California. Remember, this game is tied or Hillary is barely ahead.

Unless we see a wardrobe malfunction soon, the second half should be exciting. I expect more one on one debates and real coverage of the slight differences between what each offer for our vote.

It is great to have two great candidates. If the democrats stick together, this race will be won by the strength of the campaign staff and the ability of the candidate to react to a whirlwind pace, all while being followed by millions of energized Americans.

This is reality TV.
Power is nothing till you use it.

guido911

I hear Hillary is planning a cry fest on Thursday. Her chances have just improved...
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

pmcalk

Clinton might do better this time because the caucus is on a Saturday, and you are more likely to get labor out on that day.  Still because Washington is a higher income/higher educated state, I think he will win.  Nebraska is like Kansas--likely to win there.  

Additionally, Obama is now beating Clinton financially.  He raised an average of one million dollars a day last month.  On the other hand, Clinton's staff is working without pay this month, and she has loaned herself 5 million for the campaign.  Money isn't everything, but it doesn't hurt.
 


RecycleMichael

That is pretty common at this point in a campaign. She has asked all her friends for money and now they want to make sure that she is ready to do what it takes to win. Putting her own money in is a sign of strength that she is also committed.

Knowing that she has loaned her campaign money is also code for give me more. Remember, this information came from her campaign staff directly.

There are many candidates who only run as far as somebody else's money takes them. You can tell. I think Randi Miller in her run for mayor last time and Fred Thompson for president this time fit. They both were in the race for a while, but surprisingly quiet and ineffective.
Power is nothing till you use it.

rwarn17588

<RM wrote:

Putting her own money in is a sign of strength that she is also committed.

<end clip>

Of course, your base giving you $6.3 million in a single DAY (as they did for Obama today) is a sign of bigger strength, no?

RecycleMichael

Agree.

Obama has been incredible in raising new money. There is usually a small group of people who give to campaigns. Obama has found new people who are giving small amounts again and again.

It is a sign that regular people want to help him win, not just the same people over and over again.

That is one of the reasons why he has energized the democrats like never before.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Cats Cats Cats

Obama is up to 7 million now.

And 5 million loan = at some point she is going to give up and repay herself with somebody's donations.

FOTD

Can't fund her own campaign.....so, what's gonna happen with the economy IF she is in control?

waterboy

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Originally posted by FOTD

Can't fund her own campaign.....so, what's gonna happen with the economy IF she is in control?



Oh, i dunno, maybe we could get another 90's style growing economy with balanced budgets? Most politicians fund their campaigns with borrowed money or donations. You know that. Your starting to sound like someone who has no favorite but damns them all. Is anyone running good enough?

FOTD

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Originally posted by waterboy

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Originally posted by FOTD

Can't fund her own campaign.....so, what's gonna happen with the economy IF she is in control?



Oh, i dunno, maybe we could get another 90's style growing economy with balanced budgets? Most politicians fund their campaigns with borrowed money or donations. You know that. Your starting to sound like someone who has no favorite but damns them all. Is anyone running good enough?



I support the candidate who will generate enthusiasm which in turn will benefit America's psyche and lift the spirit and the economy. It's not an obligation as the Billary Royalty Machine would have you feel. I will not be choosing between the lessor of two evils.


iplaw

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Originally posted by FOTD

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Originally posted by waterboy

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Originally posted by FOTD

Can't fund her own campaign.....so, what's gonna happen with the economy IF she is in control?



Oh, i dunno, maybe we could get another 90's style growing economy with balanced budgets? Most politicians fund their campaigns with borrowed money or donations. You know that. Your starting to sound like someone who has no favorite but damns them all. Is anyone running good enough?



I support the candidate who will generate enthusiasm which in turn will benefit America's psyche and lift the spirit and the economy. It's not an obligation as the Billary Royalty Machine would have you feel. I will not be choosing between the lessor of two evils.



Someone's read "The Secret" one too many times...  Happy feelings built upon sunshine and farts do not a stable country or economy make.

Lifting the American psyche...please.  You sound like this guy.



FOTD