Brookside: Upscale Apartment Complex Proposal

[Composer]

Upscale Apartment Complex Proposal


5-story Building

An upscale apartment complex is in the works in a Brookside neighborhood but it won't go in without a fight.  A developer out of Houston wants to build a five-story, 250 unit, apartment complex on 39th and South Rockford Avenue.  The apartment complex would sit right where low-income and the elderly have lived for years.  Some call the current complex an eye soar but other's say it's their home.

"I work here, I live here, I shop here. I can do everything in my life within four blocks of where I am standing right now", said Brookside resident Carolyn Geltz.

Geltz' worries a modern apartment complex will leave her home demolished. "I know a lot of people don't like the looks of the outside of the place, I really don't either, but this is where I live."

Houston based developer "The Bomasada Group" wants to build a complex similar to this one.  Neighbors fear the worst.

"If they tear this place down, I'm going to be homeless."  Bonnie Hurst, 78, says it doesn't fit her historic neighborhood.  "Five stories? And all this fancy stuff? I don't know."

The co-president for the Brookside Neighborhood Association hasn't made up his mind, but he's willing to hear about the idea.  "Is it realistic? Yeah. I think the market is there, but that's not there for us to decide", said Herb Beattie.

One thing Herb doesn't like is the height of the building.  "Some of us feel that five stories is too much."

The developer says the complex is progressive, and will replace what he calls an eyesore. Bonnie, an 11-year Brookside resident, doesn't want to be forced out. "I just know that I am not happy about having to move. I have no idea, I have no idea."

FOX23 spoke with the developer on the phone today, who says they plan to submit their plans to the city on Thursday.
The developer and his staff will be meeting with Brookside neighbors tomorrow night at seven o'clock at Wright Elementary School.



This would definitely be progressive for Tulsa.  Go check it out online at: http://www.enclaveriverfront.com

[YoungTulsan]

Sounds exactly like what I was daydreaming about happening in Brookside.  The Shannonwood Park condos giving way to a large scale apartment development.

[YoungTulsan]

10/20/07 Thread about $10 million lofts on 41st Place at Quincy Ave.

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

Just to be clear - are these lofts located within the development where McGraw recently announced construction or elsewhere?

These lofts arent located inside any "development", they will be between some apartments that are already there (Village @ Brookside) and residential houses (42nd & Peoria neighborhood).  Just east of there on the other side of those apartments is a cleared out field with roads already paved for an office development which as of yet has still not begun building.  That is the site Artist was suggesting a midrise should be put.  I think the plan is just for office space though.

I think to start getting midrise in Brookside, perhaps the Crow Creek corridor plan would be the catalyst.  Or someone could buy out the Shannonwood Park condos (1948 postwar housing turned into "condos") and have a large chunk of real estate to work with.

[dsjeffries]

quote:Originally posted by Composer

Upscale Apartment Complex Proposal


5-story Building

I like it...  I think 5 stories may be too much, especially given that most buildings in the area aren't more than two stories, but this is GREAT news for the area, and for Tulsa.  I'm actually really excited about this--but I want to see the plans specific to THIS project, not the Little Rock one :-).  And I really want to see something like this downtown.

quote:Some call the current complex an eye soar

[B)]  I didn't know buildings could be eyes that fly through the sky... [B)][B)][B)]

[Composer]

Specific plans for THIS project will come when they are available.  The developer says they will be like the one in Little Rock.

[TheArtist]

I really hope this happens. Tulsa is severely lacking in this type of development. Brookside is a logical place to put something like this because of the demographics that the area is already starting to cater to. There arent many places along brookside where you could put something like this where someone wouldnt complain.

Either we are going to build up the "nice" areas, expanding them and making them nicer. Or we are going to say you can only build in "undesirable" areas or areas where there currently isnt anything else.


One big reason quality apartments like this need to be at least 5 stories in height is the cost. You need enough units and income to cover the cost of the development.  Cheaper and less quality apartments can be 3 stories tall.  This development will have parking underneath as well btw.

Here is the one by this developer in Little Rock

http://www.bomasadagroup.com/littlerock1.html

[Renaissance]

Sweet.  I'd live there.  

This makes too much sense.  The Tulsa apartment market is tightening and there is a demand for nicer apartments in midtown.  Not everyone who wants a nice rental wants to live at 91st and Memorial.  I hope the same thing comes to downtown in the next few years.

[Rico]

^

So much in Tulsa seems to be held back by trying not to step on anyone's toes. Although, the opposite would be harder to live with.

I like the design... The height would be my only concern.
Below is an announcement regarding a meeting tonight regarding this development.


The Brookside Neighborhood Association will host an important meeting on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 to provide information about a very significant proposed apartment complex in Brookside. Specifically, the Bomasada Group of Houston, Texas proposes to build an upscale, 5-story complex consisting of approximately 250 units at the southwest corner of 39th and Rockford.

Bomasada wants the input and support of the neighbors before completing their design and presenting it to the TMAPC and the Tulsa City Council.  Bosamada principals will be present to share their plans and answer neighbors' questions.

This meeting will be held at Wright Elementary School, 1110 E. 45th Pl., (one block west of Peoria).  Doors will open at 7:00 p.m. and plans for the project will be available for review.

The presentation will begin at 7:30 pm.

This will be your chance to air your concerns and state what you think should be built in Brookside.  All interested parties should attend!  Please share this information with anyone who may have an interest in this precedent-setting Brookside development project.

[White Choc Hot Choc]

Personal opinion:  I think that folks should be less concerned about height and more concerned about the ground floor relationship to the street, particularly if the parking is contained (garage) and hidden.  More people living near Brookside walking/biking to the commercial district, supporting the businesses there is a good thing.  In fact, a larger structure can provide a good sound barrier from the said commercial district for the single family detached neighborhood behind it.  More walkable, more ped friendly.  It can be a good thing, again, if that first floor is done well.

[inteller]

I'm shocked that bumgarner isn't behind this monstrosity.  all the same, I plan on supporting the Brookside neighbors to fight this garbage.

[Conan71]

I'm having a hard time getting over something like this popping up over the neighborhood and can be seen in every direction.  Wouldn't surprise me if Bolewood got involved in fighting this as well.

Great idea, wrong area for a five story building.

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

I'm shocked that bumgarner isn't behind this monstrosity.  all the same, I plan on supporting the Brookside neighbors to fight this garbage.

What in God's name are you talking about? You haven't even seen renderings. Stick to the South Side, bro. You can have all the sprawl you want out there. We don't need to pick a fight with these people, assuming they're plans are reasonable.  These are the kind of developers we need in the Tulsa market because they clearly understand the value (and profit) available from building in urban, walkable settings.  Let's try not to chase them away.

[PonderInc]

Has anyone actually seen any real plans for this development?  I was copied on an email that suggested the proposal was for a modern design.  This thread suggests a more "traditional" design.  Does anyone know anything for sure?  

Everyone seems worried about a building being 5 stories tall.  I lived for many years in "Eugene" at 21st and Cincinnati.  It has 3 floors of apts on top of ground floor garages...making it 4 stories tall.  It never seemed that high to me.  It was adjacent to large 2-story homes with big trees in between.  From my apt, all you could see were trees, not the neighbor's private lives. (In fact, to see the street, you had to practically press your nose up against the window to get the angle right...)

At the Brookside Neighborhood meeting, will they have drawings of the proposed development to show people?  Will the developers be there to answer questions?  Anybody know anything?

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by Floyd

Sweet.  I'd live there.  

This makes too much sense.  The Tulsa apartment market is tightening and there is a demand for nicer apartments in midtown.  Not everyone who wants a nice rental wants to live at 91st and Memorial.  I hope the same thing comes to downtown in the next few years.

What Floyd said.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by PonderInc

Has anyone actually seen any real plans for this development?  I was copied on an email that suggested the proposal was for a modern design.  This thread suggests a more "traditional" design.  Does anyone know anything for sure?  

Everyone seems worried about a building being 5 stories tall.  I lived for many years in "Eugene" at 21st and Cincinnati.  It has 3 floors of apts on top of ground floor garages...making it 4 stories tall.  It never seemed that high to me.  It was adjacent to large 2-story homes with big trees in between.  From my apt, all you could see were trees, not the neighbor's private lives. (In fact, to see the street, you had to practically press your nose up against the window to get the angle right...)

At the Brookside Neighborhood meeting, will they have drawings of the proposed development to show people?  Will the developers be there to answer questions?  Anybody know anything?

More than likely you saw this nut it does have a virtual tour of the proposed development and some other info.


This would definitely be progressive for Tulsa. Go check it out online at: http://www.enclaveriverfront.com