I'm guessing it's Garth

[grahambino]

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quote:Originally posted by guido911

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Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.

Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.

No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.

ive always heard that Corgan would play their parts in the studio.

[brunoflipper]

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quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Deep Purple is still together?

Many of those bands are not still together.  But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name.  Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know.  Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?  

Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years.  kinda  sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.

Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.

saw them for one dollar in norman at hollywood theater in 91... when they were still cool

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by brunoflipper

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Deep Purple is still together?

Many of those bands are not still together.  But some band members will have or buy out the name rights from the others and tour under that name.  Van Halen, Pink Floyd (tours without Roger Waters somehow), Skynyrd, CCR, Rage, The Police, Def Leppard... all tour without original members as far as I know.  Anyone know if the Smashing Pumpkins is the real deal?  

Of the list I can say I've seen 10, and I haven't been to a big concert in 6+ years.  kinda  sad how the industry is dominated by old blood.

Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.

saw them for one dollar in norman at hollywood theater in 91... when they were still cool

Only two of their songs I ever liked...

And if you want to see drummers (I am one) with great meter, check out:

Neal Peart (Rush)
Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)

Nobody can beat those guys.  Period.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:

Smashing Pumpkins is 1/2 real. Billy Corgan is leading it and is somehow keeping Jimmy Chamberlin out of rehab. James Iha and Darcy aren't part of it, however.

Smashing Pumpkins is 100% real. Billy Corgan is the Smashing Pumkins.

No-one would know who they were if not for Iha and, to a smaller percentage, D'arcy. Chamberlin is worthless then and now. Corgan was a decent writer but Iha and the rest were the real musical talent. Now all Corgan has to do is hire people who can do play good SP covers to be his backing guitarists so he sounds good.

Agreed for the most part, though IMO, Corgan works best when other people are backing him, rather than him being the Whole Enchilada himself.  

Rumor in Chi-town was that D'Arcy was on the outs because she'd become a crack addict, and Corgan didn't want any part of that.  

And yeah I said crack.  Not heroin, crack.

[sgrizzle]

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Agreed for the most part, though IMO, Corgan works best when other people are backing him, rather than him being the Whole Enchilada himself.  

Rumor in Chi-town was that D'Arcy was on the outs because she'd become a crack addict, and Corgan didn't want any part of that.  

And yeah I said crack.  Not heroin, crack.

Yeah, she and Iha were together and then she just vanished. Melissa Auf De Mer did fine in her place.

Two reasons I think Billy Corgan can't do it all by himself:
1. TheFutureEmbrace
2. Mary Star of the Sea

Both CD's are the real secret behind why the Dyson vaccum has so much suction. Crack it open and look.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss



Neal Peart (Rush)

Nobody can beat those guys.  Period.

Rush is clearly one of the most amazing bands ever.  One of the best drummers paired with one fo the best guitarists and bassists.

Yeah, one of the two best, I'd agree with you.

I remember about 25 years ago seeing a cover band here locally.  They played "Free Will" by Rush.  The bass player played a fretless bass and played the keyboard part to that song with the head of the neck on the bass- unreal.

[Kashmir]

I would go to the Rush concert in a heartbeat, but I would be content to see the "Ye Olde Renaissance Faire" crowd that seems to follow them...(my neighbors are big fans: capes, robes, and shields)

I would LOVE to see Tom Petty.

[Breadburner]

I heard it was going to be The Tubes......

[Johnboy976]

There are talks of Led Zeppelin having a world tour in the next year. They were here once, so maybe we could get them back.

[perspicuity85]

So, the good news is that Chesney won't be the actual opening act.  He is number 2.

As for #1, I vote for Tom Petty.  He could sell the arena out, especially if there's a quality opening act.  My dream act would be Eric Clapton and J.J. Cale doing some rock/blues songs along with younger bands that play a similar kind of music, such as The Black Keys (who played at Cain's last year).  The bluesy rock scene has come back with a vengeance, especially in Britain.  A concert like that would put Tulsa on the map for a music genre that is currently thought of as too new for the area by many.

As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena.  I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.

For now, I'm setting my hopes on Tom Petty or Rush, and of course my dream concert with Eric Clapton.

[cannon_fodder]

perspicuity,

trust me, Chesney would NOT be coming to Tulsa without the new arena. On this tour he is playing Solider Field in Chicago, The Cleveland Browns Stadium, MGM Grand Arena, LP Field (NFL Titans), Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles), Ford Field (Lions), Lucas Oil Stadium (Colts), Turner Field (Braves), - which all seat tens of thousand more than the BOk Center.  

The only venue smaller than the BOk that I found was in Jacksonville and in grand Rapids (where there will be 2 back to back shows seating 12,000 each) - the standard venue size seems to be over 50,000.  So perhaps that explains why we can support a concert in OKC and one in Tulsa a few months later.

For that matter neither would Dion.  Though I will not go to either, they are probably going to be great acts for the arena and are damn sure "big acts" that I'm happy will be in town.

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by perspicuity85


As I see it, the whole point of the arena is to attract a caliber of concerts that Tulsa would not have attracted without the arena.  I may be biased because I don't listen to country, but Kenny Chesney does not at all seem to be of that caliber.

You're biased because you don't listen to country.

Chesney is huge.  Just understand that he's an incredibly popular country artist who will not only fill the arena but create high demand for tickets.  This is still Oklahoma, after all.  And he wouldn't have come here without the BOK Center, except perhaps--perhaps--to play Country Thunder in Pryor.  So, at a minimum, this is pulling entertainment options back from the suburbs toward the core; but more likely, it's pulling entertainment options to the metro area that would not have come otherwise.

[grahambino]

my dad went to see Kenny Chesney in Vegas.
Said it was the loudest concert he'd ever been to...and he's seen Led Zeppelin.  
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Personally, I have no interest in going, but he said it was a great show, except for the volume.

[cannon_fodder]

I hate that.  Why do they think louder = better?  I don't mean it has to be quite to have a normal conversation.  But I'd like to be able to shout something in my wifes ear and have her hear it.

Double so for bars.  More often than not I leave a bar with live music because I'd rather have a conversation, or at least be able to order a drink.  And it's not possible with some hack who has to crank the volume to pretend he can play music.

/I'm officially old.

[danno]

And if you want to see drummers (I am one) with great meter, check out:

Neal Peart (Rush)
Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)

Nobody can beat those guys.  Period.
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Yeah those guys are great, but what about Terry Bozzio or Danny Carey? Those guys are sick.