QuikTrip in our arena.

[Juan Mad Okie]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Juan Mad Okie

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by EricP

Wow that KC arena ain't bad inside either... I can't wait for an event that doesn't suck to show up so I can go see ours.

The KC Arena was $100M more than ours and has no sports teams.. None.. at all...

Kansas City Brigade

They were playing at the Kemper Center and originally had no plans to move.

apparently their plans changed, and they also have the Big 12 tourney this year

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Juan Mad Okie


apparently their plans changed, and they also have the Big 12 tourney this year

Kansas City has hosted 7 of the last 11 years. OKC had it last year and next year.

[Kenosha]

QuikTrip & Mazzio's would be great concessionaires..What other Tulsa/Oklahoma bidnessess could we stick in there?  I am not a huge Rib Crib fan, but they probably have the logistics to do it.  Camilles too...  Maybe Sonic (OKC)?

How about some local brew at the beer tap? McNellie's?

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Kenosha

QuikTrip & Mazzio's would be great concessionaires..What other Tulsa/Oklahoma bidnessess could we stick in there?  I am not a huge Rib Crib fan, but they probably have the logistics to do it.  Camilles too...  Maybe Sonic (OKC)?

How about some local brew at the beer tap? McNellie's?

Wilson's or Elmer's over Rib Crib. And Hideaway over Mazzio's. And what about Coney I-Lander for Dogs and Ron's for burgers and chili?

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by EricP

Wow that KC arena ain't bad inside either... I can't wait for an event that doesn't suck to show up so I can go see ours.

The KC Arena was $100M more than ours and has no sports teams.. None.. at all...

The BOK is $141 errr $183 errr $178 million(latest) not counting the extra going into it from what will become non revenue making suites for the next few years. No final project cost has been published but is sure to pass $220 million IMO

The Sprint Total cost was $276 and only took 28 months to open from ground breaking. They also did not have to spend millions for rehab in the area and move their city hall[]

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007


The BOK is $141 errr $183 errr $178 million(latest) not counting the extra going into it from what will become non revenue making suites for the next few years. No final project cost has been published but is sure to pass $220 million IMO

The Sprint Total cost was $276 and only took 28 months to open from ground breaking. They also did not have to spend millions for rehab in the area and move their city hall[]

So again, the Sprint Center cost $100M more.

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007


The BOK is $141 errr $183 errr $178 million(latest) not counting the extra going into it from what will become non revenue making suites for the next few years. No final project cost has been published but is sure to pass $220 million IMO

The Sprint Total cost was $276 and only took 28 months to open from ground breaking. They also did not have to spend millions for rehab in the area and move their city hall[]

So again, the Sprint Center cost $100M more.

And again no it didn't not in Total cost

Plus look at how theirs was funded

quote: AEG, one of the world's leading sports and entertainment presenters, will serve as a
partner with the City of Kansas City in developing, operating and managing Sprint
Center. AEG will make a $50,000,000 financial commitment to the project and will
assist the City in attracting an anchor tenant for the arena.

quote: The NABC is expected to provide $10,000,000 in financing. The remainder of the
financing will be composed of a combination of tax credit financing, hotel and car
rental license fees, and user fees.

But of course Tulsa isn't big enough to make those kind of deals.

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

I think it was stated that they won't be doing concessions here.

I think that is code for "not enough business"

You need a steady, at least somewhat consistent stream of business to operate something like a QT or Mazzios - The BOK arena is currently unproven.  Perhaps if it turns out this thing is a resounding success with near capacity events several days a week, there would be a profitable business model.  I think I read the QT inside the Sprint Center is their busiest location in the company - But they will not see near the numbers in the BOK Arena, nor are any theoretical projections of what business at the arena might be like solid enough to design an operation from.

Is the BOK Center even designed with the capacity to have businesses setting up shops around the people coming and going like the Sprint Center has?

Also, suggesting a mom & pop operation over a chain sounds nice, but you need a chain mentality to handle 18,000 people coming at you for fountain drinks and sandwiches.

[TheArtist]

Our arena will look nicer, inside and out, than the KC arena does.

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Our arena will look nicer, inside and out, than the KC arena does.

What about, down the street within eyesight of, the arena?

I'm playing devil's advocate saying that, of course- but I do look forward to attending events in this arena and hope it is nice enough to instill pride in Tulsans.

[joiei]

according to that link, I am seeing food concessions handled by Levy Restaurants.  All those other guys must be subcontracted to that company.  So you have one company handleing the concessions, not half a dozen.  And QT isn't even local to KC, I bet there was some *****ing about that little fact from the locals.  

Also considering that the paper was pre construction amount of 250 million with Sprint given the naming rights, how much did they pay for that gift?   All you guys using sprint phones, you paid for it.  okay.  How much was the final amount spent on the arena.  I have seen the building and I don't think it is near as distinctive as our arena.  Plus, the city rebuilt an entire area around the arena, tore up streets blocked off freeway entrances and exits, made getting around town a nightmare, what we have is nothing compared to what happened there.  Restaurants have been opened and there has been no, repeat no business for them.  

Go to this forum and read all about the spectacle of the Sprint arena.  Kansas city forums

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by joiei

according to that link, I am seeing food concessions handled by Levy Restaurants.  All those other guys must be subcontracted to that company.  So you have one company handleing the concessions, not half a dozen.  And QT isn't even local to KC, I bet there was some *****ing about that little fact from the locals.  

Also considering that the paper was pre construction amount of 250 million with Sprint given the naming rights, how much did they pay for that gift?   All you guys using sprint phones, you paid for it.  okay.  How much was the final amount spent on the arena.  I have seen the building and I don't think it is near as distinctive as our arena.  Plus, the city rebuilt an entire area around the arena, tore up streets blocked off freeway entrances and exits, made getting around town a nightmare, what we have is nothing compared to what happened there.  Restaurants have been opened and there has been no, repeat no business for them.  

Go to this forum and read all about the spectacle of the Sprint arena.  Kansas city forums

I've visited QT in Shawnee Kansas are you sure they're not local?
Sprint paid $2.5 million a year for a contract of 10 years ( what did BOK pay?) You did read the link, right?

The total price for Sprint was $278 million ( as mentioned earlier)

The best part is they didn't make the residents pay for it over a 13 year period. In fact some residents of KC won't even have a penny of theirs go towards it, nice to have that choice....

[tulsascoot]

Anyone from Tulsa can tell you and attest to the fact that QT is from Tulsa, and definitely not KC.

if you need to know more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiktrip

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by tulsascoot

Anyone from Tulsa can tell you and attest to the fact that QT is from Tulsa, and definitely not KC.

if you need to know more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiktrip

Gee I don't remember that being in question just local and I consider if there is a store in a town , then they are local in that town but of course not from there originally or owned[]

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by tulsascoot

Anyone from Tulsa can tell you and attest to the fact that QT is from Tulsa, and definitely not KC.

if you need to know more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiktrip

Gee I don't remember that being in question just local and I consider if there is a store in a town , then they are local in that town but of course not from there originally or owned[]

Then we certainly should get some local Tulsa food in our arena like McDonald's and Taco Bell.