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Started by RecycleMichael, February 29, 2008, 02:31:29 PM

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FOTD

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

If Hillary wins both Texas and Ohio, she should be treated as a viable candidate.

Obama has won eleven in a row and has outspent Hillary by over two-to-one in both states. The format and Texas rules favor his campaign strengths clearly. Texans get to vote in a primary and a caucus and the delegate distribution puts extra weight in Austin and Houston with large black and student populations. Losing after winning all those in a row, having your strengths as part of the rules and doubling your campaign spending over your opponent would be a terrible blow.

His failure to close the deal should worry his supporters.

Losing big states is not the way to win the White House. Obama is far from winning this election. He needs over 2,000 delegates and only has 1,300 today and is only 100 in front of Hillary.

You don't stop the Indianapolis 500 car race after 350 miles because one car has a small lead. That is especially true if the car in second is catching up.



Sen. Clinton started "shaming" others - then, I saw her mocking Sen. Obama, and indirectly, those of us who agree with his message.

Have any of you seen or read about Hillary mocking Obama's entire message of hope? It's ugly as hell.

I urge the candidate to save some face by changing her behavior, looking realistically at her situation, and withdrawing from this race.

RecycleMichael

Power is nothing till you use it.

FOTD

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Originally posted by guido911

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Originally posted by pmcalk

FOTD, you are giving us Obama supporters a very bad image.



Uh, NO. FOTD/AOX or whatever else he calls himself gives TNF a bad image.

RM:  Once again I find myself agreeing with you. Twice in as many days I think.



RM....do you need a better example of playing into talk radio politics?

FOTD

http://thejoshuablogs.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-clintons-experience-chose-to-not.html


"35 years of "experience" wasn't enough to read the Iraq NIE the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said she should?

35 years of "experience" wasn't enough to provide an actual moment of crisis where that experience prevailed.

We can't afford Hillary Clinton's definition of 35 years of experience."


If Hillary can only win core Democratic votes, if she can't win Independents, then why bother to nominate her, when that's the clearest proof that she's unelectable?
Unless Democrats want to hand this election to McCaint.

guido911

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I urge her to ignore FOTD.



I urge FOTD/AOX to get lost.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I urge her to ignore FOTD.



I urge FOTD/AOX to get lost.



Whine Whine Whine.....just like Hillary.
The Clintons need to go away. Put a stake through her heart. Draw blood. Mine to if you want me to get lost. Only way to deal with the devil....

"Better stay away from him
He'll rip your lungs out, Jim"
Warren Zevon

guido911

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Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I urge her to ignore FOTD.



I urge FOTD/AOX to get lost.



Whine Whine Whine.....just like Hillary.
The Clintons need to go away. Put a stake through her heart. Draw blood. Mine to if you want me to get lost. Only way to deal with the devil....

"Better stay away from him
He'll rip your lungs out, Jim"
Warren Zevon



It is not whining. I have just had it with you. OUT. I encourage others on this forum to join this position.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

dsjeffries

Clinton takes Ohio, Rhode Island; Obama takes Vermont.

Texas is up in the air and reportedly, some caucus leaders who supported Obama locked out Hillary supporters....

This is going to get ugly.

Hillary has her dukes up, though, and has two more states up her sleeves.  With such a wide margin of victory (so far) in Ohio, it looks like (based on similar demographics) that Pennsylvania will follow...
That means she has the majority of the HUGE states.

+/- Texas.

FOTD

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Originally posted by DScott28604

Clinton takes Ohio, Rhode Island; Obama takes Vermont.

Texas is up in the air and reportedly, some caucus leaders who supported Obama locked out Hillary supporters....

This is going to get ugly.

Hillary has her dukes up, though, and has two more states up her sleeves.  With such a wide margin of victory (so far) in Ohio, it looks like (based on similar demographics) that Pennsylvania will follow...
That means she has the majority of the HUGE states.

+/- Texas.



"This will come down to delegates."
Mark Penn (Clinton campaign manager) in 07

There's no dent in the lead. The count is accurate. The party will embrace Obama. Just a matter of time. Big states don't rule. David Axelrod has had a great strategy. The Obama people have had the counts right on for months. A tremendous positive campaign versus Clintonian slop.

Meanwhile, Bush will anoint John Dubyah McCain on Wednesday at the White House. Got to love it.

RecycleMichael

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Originally posted by FOTD
There's no dent in the lead.


Hillary picked up 27 delgates and possibly more from the caucus in Texas. She got 350,000 more votes than him last night.

She now has more popular votes than him nationwide.

"no dent in the lead"?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD
There's no dent in the lead.


Hillary picked up 27 delgates and possibly more from the caucus in Texas. She got 350,000 more votes than him last night.

She now has more popular votes than him nationwide.

"no dent in the lead"?



She seemed very pleased afterwards.  

I just can't seem to put any trust in her.  I've tried to erase my pre-dispositions, and let her start over with me with a blank slate, but then she gives a speech and my danger alarm goes off again!

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

inteller

#56
That little turd BHO better start smoking 2 packs a day now to keep his speaking voice in prime form because the Clintons are back.
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I think Americans are finally waking up and seeing that this guy's substance barely goes skin deep.

Notice that in states where you didn't have a cadre of young stupid activist voters--hillary won.

Hometown

#57
I've posted my strong support for Ms. Clinton here for about a year and a half now.  

Democrats must finally remember that both of our candidates share many values.  At this point I don't see how we can win in November if we don't have a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket.

My man Jack Henderson won last night too.  I love the way Rich Tulsa can't buy North Tulsa's vote.  This isn't good news for Taylor.



inteller

quote:
Originally posted by Hometown

I've posted my strong support for Ms. Clinton here for about a year and a half now.  

Democrats must finally remember that both of our candidates share many values.  At this point I don't see how we can win in November if we don't have a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket.

My man Jack Henderson won last night too.  I love the way Rich Tulsa can't buy North Tulsa's vote.  This isn't good news for Taylor.






if that is the way that it has to be then it needs to be a Clinton/Obama ticket to keep that smoking turd in check.

pmcalk

Looks like we owe you dinner, Rm.  Clinton had to win both Texas & Ohio to remain in the race, and she did.  More to come.