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Bomasada Development (NOT) Going Forward

Started by cannon_fodder, March 03, 2008, 03:01:15 PM

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Gaspar

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Originally posted by dsjeffries

It's back on the table!

quote:
Plans for apartments at 36th and Rockford back on


By World Staff
4/2/2008  3:56 PM

Plans for a multistory, upscale apartment complex in Brookside are back on track.

The developer, Bomasada Group Inc. of Houston, hopes to break ground on the Enclave at Brookside within six months, officials said.

The apartment complex will be at the corner of 39th Street and Rockford Avenue.

"We're moving ahead and we'll see how it goes," said John Gilbert, senior vice president of Bomasada.

In March, Bomasada scrapped plans for the project, citing rising costs.

Gilbert said Wednesday that the issue had been resolved.

The original proposal called for a five-story complex that would include 240 apartments with underground parking.

Gilbert said the latest plan calls for a four-story structure with 234 units.

Parking will be in a separate, four-story structure.

The one- and two-bedroom apartments will go for between $800 and $2,000 per month.




They canceled their 4/2 TMPC review date, and then waited until later that day to announce that the project was back on?

That's odd.
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cannon_fodder

I understand business.  I understand the need to hold a party line.  I understand negotiations.

But they outright lied to me when I called and asked.  That pisses me off.  They could have said "no comment" or "we only release information in press releases" or just strung me out.  Don't lie to me.

I no longer trust them.  I hope their project comes together as I think it is good for Tulsa and good for the area.  But I refuse to get excited again until construction equipment shows up on site and a few sticks start to rise.
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TheArtist

#17
They may have just been upset and were in the moment, not going to do it. But then settled down, worked out some changes and decided to go ahead with it. They are people too ya know. Will be interesting to see the new renderings. I actually like the idea of a parking garage. They had a small parking lot on the last layout that I didnt like. Perhaps its no longer there and is now a parking garage. Would give the development a more urban feel.

Oh, and very glad to hear its back on again. This whole thing has seemed like some sort of silly charade at times lol. And your right, I wont believe it till I see a crane in the air, or whatever it is they will be using. (even then one has to be careful, how many times did we see dirt being pushed around on the news, by tractors with the riverwalk phase 2 thing lol).
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we vs us

Seriously?  File under "pancakes."

Kenosha

I suspect that the Fire Marshall altered his comments on the development, rather than the developer altering his plans.
 

sgrizzle

It says the building is now 4 buildings and a seperate parking garage.... sounds pretty altered to me.

Gaspar

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

It says the building is now 4 buildings and a seperate parking garage.... sounds pretty altered to me.



Big change!  The original was basically the exact same building they built in Arkansas.  I bet it changes even more in the next few weeks to conform to Tulsa's requirements.

I'd like to see some elevations.  I wonder if it's going to be a beautiful facade or just another tulsa apartment complex?
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cannon_fodder

Good point Gaspar.  I REALLY hope we didn't make them convert a well designed large building into a cooker cutter apartment block.  

I'm still trying to ignore this, but am really curious to see how it all wash(es/ed) out.  Did the city cave?  The developer?  A compromise?  

What's the new design?
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TheArtist

Now I am curious as to what the 4 story parking garage will look like that is along 41st and fronting Rockford. Could be a bit of a negative if its plain and ugly. Love the idea of structured parking, as long as its hidden or looks nice. Hate to sound like a Negative Nelly, but it is a valid concern for that location. We do want it to look decent and add to walkability not detract from the look of the area.
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waterboy

Where does the name come from? Bo (bank of oklahoma?) Masada (biblical fortress?). Or just some internet forum name?

dsjeffries

#25
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Originally posted by waterboy

Where does the name come from? Bo (bank of oklahoma?) Masada (biblical fortress?). Or just some internet forum name?



Funny you should mention that.  In the new article this morning on TW, something really interesting was said at the end:
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He said his firm is eyeing residential projects elsewhere in the city, including downtown near the BOK Center.


After dealing with the restrictions in this neighborhood, I'd be eyeing downtown, too! No restrictions! [:P]

PonderInc

My guess is that Dan Perry decided a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush, and agreed to lower his price a few bucks. (Thus making the development feasible again.)  I, too, hope the parking garage is tasteful and well-designed.  It's possible.  I've seen great parking garages that you would never guess were parking garages.  (Of course, all of them were in other cities...)  

This is my chance to suggest to Bomasada that they incorporate ground-floor retail on the side of the parking garage that faces 41st.  This would not only be an added amenity to the tenents of the building, but it would be a revenue stream for the life of the garage.  AND (most importantly), it would create a better streetscape in keeping with the new-urbanist concept of a walkable, livable space.

Kenosha

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

It says the building is now 4 buildings and a seperate parking garage.... sounds pretty altered to me.



Doh!  I guess I should actually read the article.

lol.
 

PonderInc

The Tulsa World basically included a graphic for the old design.  The parking garage, as it turns out, will be located behind the buildings, next to the Food Pyramid.  According to Bomasada, the new site plan will include units facing 41st instead of the original open parking.

TheArtist

#29
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Originally posted by PonderInc

The Tulsa World basically included a graphic for the old design.  The parking garage, as it turns out, will be located behind the buildings, next to the Food Pyramid.  According to Bomasada, the new site plan will include units facing 41st instead of the original open parking.



Bravo



"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h