house hunting--brady heights?

[newtulsan]

I will be moving to Tulsa soon and have been looking for a house.  I have found several for sale in Brady Heights but have gotten mixed reviews about the area.  I am just trying to get opinions on living in this area...is it safe? resale value? etc... Thanks for your help!

[Townsend]

That's a good question for Carlton Place if he'd show back up on here again

[TURobY]

I always thought it was a nice neighborhood. Unfortunately, though, it has the North Tulsa stigma.

You can use this to your advantage though, because it means you can get a little more house for your buck than you would in other parts of town.

[ARGUS]

I would advise seeking the help of a  full time active Realtor to show you the area and back up all information provided with current real estate market data.
Perception is a factor for that area. In general is the outlook good?(2-5yrs) I say "yes".
It is a good thing were in Tulsa!
Oklahoma IS the future.
....and yes I am poud and happy to be a Realtor in the Tulsa area.
Do you have a question?....ASK A REALTOR!

[tulsa1603]

Last weekend I was driving down the Tisdale Expressway at night - what an amazing view of Tulsa.  Felt like I was approaching some strange, beautiful city.  You really forget that part of town is up there...kind of tragic when you think of it.  I think there is great potential.  Yes, it's "north", but it's not really the part I think of as dangerous.  If I had free cash, I'd consider buying and fixing something up as an investment.  It's definitely still "up and coming", but that process is very VERY slow in Tulsa.  I live in Florence Park, which was up and coming 20 years ago, and STILL feels that way to me looking at many of the shabby houses.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by newtulsan

I will be moving to Tulsa soon and have been looking for a house.  I have found several for sale in Brady Heights but have gotten mixed reviews about the area.  I am just trying to get opinions on living in this area...is it safe? resale value? etc... Thanks for your help!

Go South!

[dsjeffries]

quote:Originally posted by guido911
Go South!

No!  Go anywhere...ANYWHERE but South!

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by DScott28604

quote:Originally posted by guido911
Go South!

No!  Go anywhere...ANYWHERE but South!

That's right. Stay away from those pesky, higher quality schools, lower crime, shopping, blah blah blah...

[cannon_fodder]

South Tulsa is any town USA, period.  If you want good schools, chain shopping, cooker cutter homes, and uniform neighbors... move South.  I prefer my more diverse neighborhood with good schools, unique stores, and a bit of congestion to keep things lively.

South Tulsa has things to offer, but it bores me.

The Brady Heights area is a very interesting place.  Unfortunately I do not have a bead on how it is doing, what the crime may be, or anything else.

[Hometown]

I live on Reservoir Hill and I drive through Brady Heights twice a day.  The more I see of it the more I really like Brady Heights.  

Brady Heights was Tulsa's first neighborhood.  Big two story detached garage homes there tend to list around $150,000. I've seen houses there go up for sale, sit for six months and then get taken off the market and rented.  I've also seen a handful of house there turn in a few months.  

I have my eye on a string of very large two story homes in a row that are not for sale and that I want to have.  There is one in particular that I have been thinking about.  I may try to find the owner and make an offer.  Several homes in Brady Heights have been restored to nearly perfect original condition.  That's what I would do with a house there.

There are a handful of good private schools close by and also a handful of good public schools.  There is quality day care available downtown.

Some people fear north Tulsa in general because they are fearful of living near Blacks. The Black families in my neighborhood are successful business owners and are very fine neighbors.  

I sought out a diverse neighborhood when I returned to Tulsa from California two and a half years ago.  I've spent my adult life in international cities and all White neighborhoods do not interest me.

I'm an older, comfortable White gay man and I shop and drive around north Tulsa every day and I have never felt unwelcome or unsafe.

Finally, I believe north Tulsa is a great investment but you may need to hold onto property there for a while to get what you want.

I bought my home for $200,000 and after a lot of restoration and improvement my realtor believes I could get $350,000 for my home now.

Finally, I'm a Democrat and I wanted to live in a neighborhood that was predominately Democrat.  District 1 where Brady Heights is fills the bill.

I don't understand why people pay a premium to live in South Tulsa and shop at its strip malls and sit in traffic when the older neighborhoods of mid-town and north Tulsa are so clearly superior, but I think a lot of it gets back to fear of ethnic people.

Good luck with your search.

[Kashmir]

quote:  South Tulsa is any town USA, period.

I grew up far east (41st ST/145th) Tulsa, and as things changed over there (stores closing) my family gravitated south. So I guess I grew up south too for the most part. South/BA is not all bad...There are some great little hole-in-the-wall restaurants close by in BA.  My child's soon to be (excellent) elementary school is within walking distance. My street is blessedly diverse as well.  I live by the awesome bike trails too.  


I think my parents settled in East Tulsa  in a new home because of my mom.  She had always grown up in cramped military housing which tended to be old and she always shared a room with at least 3 other sisters at a time. (NINE kids total)  So when she got married and moved to Tulsa she wanted a home that was shiny NEW with lots of S P A C E.  And a few bathrooms to spare! And for someone who grew up with military commissary limited choices, Big Box goodness close by would seem very enticing indeed.

Definitely NOT because of a fear of diversity.  And you can't judge for the reasons a person lives where they do.  

There ARE unique stores and restaurants and shops, but just like anywhere else,  you have to know where to find them.  And you just may have to drive a little to get there...

Sorrrry to rant, but you're knockin' where I grew up, man.

[guido911]

quote:

Sorrrry to rant Cannon, but you're knockin' where I grew up, man.

And he's knockin' where I live now...

[Kashmir]

Sorry I edited, I wasn't trying to pick on Cannon.     Hometown got me all fired up!

I just got back from lunch in North Tulsa, and I'm obviously still alive.[8D]

[cannon_fodder]

I'm not trying to knock it, just telling it like it is.  If I took off a blindfold in South Tulsa, west Des Moines, East Wichita or a suburb of nearly any decent sized US city they are all the same.  Decent schools, strip malls, sprawling subdivisions neatly separated from the newest chain stores and plenty of white people with moderate incomes.

Sure they have unique things in and about them. But there is more similar to most any other town than different.  Which is why I refer to it as AnyTown USA - it's a not bad.  Man Americans PREFER to live there.  It's comfortable, secure, and well known.  That shouldn't be taken as offensive unless you want to pretend Broken Arrow/South Tulsa is something other than as described.

And not to imply that Midtown Tulsa is a super elite or unique bastion.  But it's the best we have to work with IMHO.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I'm not trying to knock it, just telling it like it is.  If I took off a blindfold in South Tulsa, west Des Moines, East Wichita or a suburb of nearly any decent sized US city they are all the same.  Decent schools, strip malls, sprawling subdivisions neatly separated from the newest chain stores and plenty of white people with moderate incomes.

Sure they have unique things in and about them. But there is more similar to most any other town than different.  Which is why I refer to it as AnyTown USA - it's a not bad.  Man Americans PREFER to live there.  It's comfortable, secure, and well known.  That shouldn't be taken as offensive unless you want to pretend Broken Arrow/South Tulsa is something other than as described.

And not to imply that Midtown Tulsa is a super elite or unique bastion.  But it's the best we have to work with IMHO.

Sounds like class envy []

I am not going to argue with you on this. It's counterproductive and there can be no winner.  I lived in mid-town for several years. You can have Tulsa Public Schools, pain in the donkey traffic, higher crime and all those "unique" stores at the Promenade Mall and Utica Square.

I guess I will just have to put up with all that crappy developmental in the Jenks Riverwalk area, Union/Jenks/Bixby public schools (Holland Hall's better), lower crime, less traffic congestion, and overall better public safety.