County Tries Police Cams

[MH2010]

quote:Originally posted by patric

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

you should always be vigilant and on the lookout for anything suspicious. (like when someone keeps trying to point a pen or a cell phone at you.)

quote:Originally posted by patric

I would be concerned about an individual imagining that everyone with a cellphone or pen in their hand is a threat.  

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

Of course you would. It's not your life on the line.  

You should always be looking for non-verbal clues that may show someone's intent before they act.

A good rule is if the hair on the back of your neck starts to stand up, you should know that your subconscious is trying to tell you something is wrong. You just haven't picked up on it yet.

But doesnt it indeed put my "life on the line" when someone has that extreme disposition?

A normal prudent person has no reasonable expectation to be shot because they have a pen or a phone in their hand in the normal course of the day.  That this may be all it takes to tweak an officer into deadly force mode is a little disturbing.

As long as you don't try and stab, shoot, shock or otherwise harm me with your device(s) you will be fine. Besides, you are assuming that an officer would go directly to deadly force.  We have all kinds of tools on our belts to use.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

quote:Originally posted by patric

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

you should always be vigilant and on the lookout for anything suspicious. (like when someone keeps trying to point a pen or a cell phone at you.)

quote:Originally posted by patric

I would be concerned about an individual imagining that everyone with a cellphone or pen in their hand is a threat.  

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

Of course you would. It's not your life on the line.  

You should always be looking for non-verbal clues that may show someone's intent before they act.

A good rule is if the hair on the back of your neck starts to stand up, you should know that your subconscious is trying to tell you something is wrong. You just haven't picked up on it yet.

But doesnt it indeed put my "life on the line" when someone has that extreme disposition?

A normal prudent person has no reasonable expectation to be shot because they have a pen or a phone in their hand in the normal course of the day.  That this may be all it takes to tweak an officer into deadly force mode is a little disturbing.

As long as you don't try and stab, shoot, shock or otherwise harm me with your device(s) you will be fine. Besides, you are assuming that an officer would go directly to deadly force.  We have all kinds of tools on our belts to use.

If we can only be subjected to a little more police "obediance training", then we'll all  just instantly crumple into a whining, whimpering ball, sucking our thumb, when a police man approaches.

The police don't like cell phones or digital cameras for obvious reasons:

An independent witness to their behavior.

So, of course the police are spreading cock-and-bull stories about "cell-phone camera guns".

So they have a flimsy but ready cover story for turning you into a brain-ventilated rag doll for recording their behavior.

Your honor, they smugly testify, I thought suspect Amadou Diallo was carrying a gun when we fired 41 rounds at the unarmed suspect who was trying to open his door.

Here's the actual story:

"The officers opened fire on Diallo and during the burst Officer McMellon fell down the steps, appearing to be shot. The four officers fired forty-one shots, hitting Diallo nineteen times. Investigation found no weapons on Diallo's body; the item he had pulled out of his jacket was not a gun, but a WALLET."

In March 2004, his survivors accepted a $3,000,000 settlement from NY City."

Oops; so sorry.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

quote:Originally posted by patric

Lots of times when something like this could be handy, but with only three hours recording time, it will either over-write a lot of video that needed to be preserved, or not always be switched on when needed.
http://www.wirelessmobiledata.com/vidmic.pdf

New Jersey cops find a new way to collect cleavage shots on the beach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0oP_pGJ1n4

Watch a creepy-eyed guy stumble through a video demonstration at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuAn0DlN0s0

Tulsa Police tried the lapel mic cameras about 6-7 months ago.  They were okay. They worked well in the daylight but the nighttime (low light) picture wasn't good. The recording time was also an issue.  We could never get over 5 hours.  Either officers had to switch them on when they thought they needed them or go back to the division before the three hour mark to download.  

Another issue was where officers should wear it.  If you put it at the "V" of your shirt, the pictue was good during interviews ect but if you pulled your weapon and/or just got into a tactical/fighting stance, the camera would be recording to the right(or left if your left handed) of what you wanted to record.  If you put the mic actually on your lapel, then it would usually record the sky or the horizon.

The best solution would be the cameras seen in the movie like "aliens" that the marines had. I think some soldiers use them now. They are right next to your eyes and see your line of sight.  That way what you are looking at is recorded.

I think in a few years, these things will be the way to go for city police officers but the technology still has a ways to go.

A policehat or helmet mounting a Line-of-Sight video camera would protect both the police and the citizenry with documentation of the encounter.

Starting with Police SWAT teams, who seem to have the most propensity to escalate a situation into a citizen fatality.

Wonder why the U.S. Dept. of Injustice tracks POLICE deaths that occur in the Line of Duty, by cause, but seem curiously uninterested in tracking how and why the citizenry are killed by police.

Hmmmmmh?



[B)]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by patric

A dashboard camera would have been handy in identifying the mysterious "white car" that caused a Tulsa police captain to drive his car into a light pole on the Sand Springs expressway at 3am Monday.

Probably fell asleep at the wheel.....

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I've seen pens that can fire a .22 (the rube was a barrel, the end came off, and the clicker was pulled back and released to fire the round).  Clearly a metal pen would be passed through most security check points even at an airport.  You could modify any number of items to fire a .22, the requirements to fire a round are really low.

We can't make rules on the most far extreme scenario, or the level of rules would be insurmountable.  Plan for them, but don't turn every day occurrences into hell because of the possibility.

Police officers know we can't go around all shift on your highest alert level.  However, you should always be vigilant and on the lookout for anything suspicious. (like when someone keeps trying to point a pen or a cell phone at you.)

When you become complacent and think everything is routine, that is when you will be killed.

Everyone say a prayer for Deputy Sheriff William Howell Jr.  He didn't make it home.

Deputy Sheriff William Howell Jr.
Orangeburg County Sheriff's Office
South Carolina
End of Watch: Saturday, May 3, 2008

Biographical Info
Age: 46
Tour of Duty: 16 years
Badge Number: Not available

Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Saturday, May 3, 2008
Weapon Used: Gun; Unknown type
Suspect Info: Not available

Deputy William Howell was shot and killed while responding to a domestic disturbance on Boyer Road at approximately 1:30 am. The male subject opened fire with a rifle, striking Deputy Howell in the neck.

The suspect was then run over and killed by his wife as he attempted to leave the home.

Deputy Howell had served with the Orangeburg County Sheriff's Office for 3 years and had served in law enforcement for a total of 16 years. He is survived by his wife and three sons.

Agency Contact Information
Orangeburg County Sheriff's Office
1520 Ellis Avenue
Orangeburg, SC 29115

Phone: (803) 531-4647

Please contact the Orangeburg County Sheriff's Office for funeral arrangements or for survivor benefit fund information.

Matthew D. Causey

Freedom is offered to you at the expense of the life, blood, sweat and tears of the U.S. Military.

Notice closely that the cause of death was NOT a  cell phone camera.

Rather, it was reportedly a RIFLE.

And, notice the not-so-subtle Police Obedience Training that MH2010 helpfully provides the citizenry:

"However, you should always be vigilant and on the lookout for anything suspicious. (like when someone keeps trying to point a pen or a cell phone at you."

Of COURSE, they don't want a cell phone camera pointed at them.

They want to be GOD, and God does NOT want to answer to any witnesses.

[MH2010]

I was wondering when you would show up.  Get tired of trying to convince people that Kathy Taylor isn't really a Tulsa resident?

Stupid bear. Maybe you could get some "intelligence training".

Since you brought up Amadou Diallo, Did you know the officers were aquitted of all state charges and the Justice department refused to prosecute them.

Here are some links:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/verdict.html
http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/aftermath.html

http://www.courttv.com/archive/news/2001/0131/diallo_ap.html

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

I was wondering when you would show up.  Get tired of trying to convince people that Kathy Taylor isn't really a Tulsa resident?

Stupid bear. Maybe you could get some "intelligence training".

Since you brought up Amadou Diallo, Did you know the officers were aquitted of all state charges and the Justice department refused to prosecute them.

Here are some links:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/verdict.html
http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/aftermath.html

http://www.courttv.com/archive/news/2001/0131/diallo_ap.html

Simple reason:

There is NO such legal concept as an "unjustified" police shooting.

As to a police prosecution by the U.S. Department of Injustice, pshaw.

Find an unjustified police shooting.  Find: One.  The legal concept doesn't exist.

I'm sure the four remorseful police plainclothes shooters that shot an innocent man 41 times, scoring only 19 hits, including one in the sole of his foot, felt really, really bad about the shooting.......

Scoring a miserable, less than 50% hit-rate, from 15' means much, much more time at the Police Firing Range.

Practice, practice......

P.S.  Exactly HOW is a citizen supposed to surrender to the police when he being shot at 41 times, and hit 19 times?

How?

Sheriff Andy's precautions regarding Deputy Barney Fife come to mind:  Give Barney ONE Bullet; but make him keep it in his pocket.....

[:O]

[CoffeeBean]

Here's a question:

Which would you prefer:

1)  Officer incorrectly believes that he is in danger and shoots and kills an innocent citizen

or

2)  Officer senses danger, but takes a fatal bullet while exercising discretion.

[CoffeeBean]

Some articles regarding police shootings, etc:

quote: In case after case when a District police officer shot a citizen during the 1990s, the Metropolitan Police Department's investigations were riddled with errors and omissions that make it impossible to sort out why the officer fired and whether the shooting was legitimate.

The poorly documented investigations protected officers who may have wrongly shot citizens or lied about the incidents, while making it difficult for blameless officers to clear their names in the civil lawsuits that often follow police shootings, an examination by The Washington Post found. (article here)

quote: Authorities never challenged that preliminary conclusion, even when contradictory information emerged in the days and months that followed.

Far from an egregious exception, the Chicago Police Department's handling of the Ware case fits a pattern of officials rushing to clear officers who shoot civilians, an eight-month Tribune investigation found.

The inquiry, which reviewed available records for more than 200 police shooting cases over the last decade, found that these cursory police investigations create a separate standard of justice and fuel the fear among some citizens that officers can shoot people with impunity.

In at least a dozen cases, police shot civilians in the back or from behind. But in the Ware case, as in many other police shootings, it took a civil suit for the troubling details of the case to emerge publicly. (article here)

quote: So far in 2008, there have been nine people shot by officers of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. While Shorstein said all the cases he has investigated were justifiable, that does not mean he believes they were all necessary.

"My findings of justifiable homicides are not findings of approval or acceptance of the shootings," Shorstein said.

Under the law, justifiable means an officer has reason to believe the shooting was necessary to protect himself, Shorstein said. (article here)

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

Here's a question:

Which would you prefer:

1)  Officer incorrectly believes that he is in danger and shoots and kills an innocent citizen

or

2)  Officer senses danger, but takes a fatal bullet while exercising discretion.

Definitely, choice #2.  

Why?

We pay police to take some risks.  And, they get a giant heaping of societal positive stroking.

They are NOT paid to be trigger-happy, oppressors.

Year end and year out, it is not police that have the most dangerous public service jobs.

It is firemen.

About 50 police were killed in the "line of duty "for the most recent measured year.

Approximately 1/2 that number is due to gunfire.

How many civilians were killed by police during the same time period?

NOBODY knows.  Sorry, that handy little statistic is not captured by the U.S. Dept. of Injustice.

Wonder WHY?

[MH2010]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

I was wondering when you would show up.  Get tired of trying to convince people that Kathy Taylor isn't really a Tulsa resident?

Stupid bear. Maybe you could get some "intelligence training".

Since you brought up Amadou Diallo, Did you know the officers were aquitted of all state charges and the Justice department refused to prosecute them.

Here are some links:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/verdict.html
http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/aftermath.html

http://www.courttv.com/archive/news/2001/0131/diallo_ap.html

Simple reason:

There is NO such legal concept as an "unjustified" police shooting.

As to a police prosecution by the U.S. Department of Injustice, pshaw.

Find an unjustified police shooting.  Find: One.  The legal concept doesn't exist.

I'm sure the four remorseful police plainclothes shooters that shot an innocent man 41 times, scoring only 19 hits, including one in the sole of his foot, felt really, really bad about the shooting.......

Scoring a miserable, less than 50% hit-rate, from 15' means much, much more time at the Police Firing Range.

Practice, practice......

P.S.  Exactly HOW is a citizen supposed to surrender to the police when he being shot at 41 times, and hit 19 times?

How?

Sheriff Andy's precautions regarding Deputy Barney Fife come to mind:  Give Barney ONE Bullet; but make him keep it in his pocket.....

[:O]

An unjustified police shooting is called Homicide, manslaughter, Shooting with Intent to kill, AWDW ect.

As far as unjustified police shootings, there are many.  Just google it and you will see officers prosecuted and found guilty.

The newest study I found was conducted by Dr. Aveni.  Dr. Aveni spent more than 6 months dissecting material from  major departments, including Los Angeles County (LAC) New York City, Baltimore County (MD), Miami, Portland (OR) and Washington (DC).

The study showed that "while it has long been believed that officers overall have a dismal 15-25 per cent hit probability in street encounters, suggesting truly poor performance under the stress of a real shooting situation. Actually, this figure, while essentially true in the aggregate, is markedly skewed by certain shooting variables.

During a 13-year span, the Baltimore County PD, which Aveni regards as one of the best trained in the country, achieved an average hit ratio of 64 per cent in daylight shootings-not ideal, but clearly much better than commonly believed. In shootings that occurred in low-light surroundings, however, average hits dropped to 45 per cent, a 30 per cent decline. The data from Los Angeles County (LAC) reveals a somewhat comparable 24 per cent decline.

Until this research, performance has never been accurately matched to lighting conditions, even though as many as 77 per cent of police shootings are believed to occur under some degree of diminished lighting. Some departments tally "outdoor" versus "indoor" shootings, but most appear not to precisely differentiate between low-light and ample-light events, despite the preponderance of shootings during nighttime duty tours.

A multiple-officer shooting, in which more than one officer fires during a deadly force engagement, has an even greater influence on hit probability, Aveni discovered.

According to the LAC data, when only one officer fired during an encounter, the average hit ratio was 51 per cent. When an additional officer got involved in shooting, hits dropped dramatically, to 23 per cent. With more than 2 officers shooting, the average hit ratio was only 9 per cent--"a whopping 82 per cent declination," Aveni points out.

Multiple-officer shootings, Aveni told Force Science News, are three times more likely to involve suspects with shoulder weapons than single-officer shootings. This tends to "increase the typical stand-off distance," he says. Many of these confrontations also embody fast-changing, chaotic and complex circumstances. These factors, Aveni believes, help explain the negative impact on accuracy.

Aveni also discovered a correlation between multiple-officer shootings and number of rounds fired.

With LAC shootings involving only one officer, an average of 3.59 police rounds were fired. When 2 officers got involved, the average jumped to 4.98 rounds and with 3 officers or more to 6.48. "The number of rounds fired per officer increases in multiple-officer shootings by as much as 45 per cent over single-officer shootings," Aveni says.

Again, he judges distance to be a likely factor. "A higher volume of fire may be used to compensate for the lower hit ratio as distance increases," he speculates. He believes the highly violent nature these events often present may be influential, too. Anecdotally bunch shootings appear to encompass "many of the barricaded gunman scenarios, drawn-out foot and vehicular pursuits, subjects experiencing violent psychotic episodes, gang attacks and encounters involving heavily armed suspects," such as the infamous FBI Miami shootout and the North Hollywood bank robbery street battle.

"Emotional contagion," where officers fire merely because others are shooting, is almost certainly an element of at least some multiple-officer shootings, Aveni concedes. But the extent of this assumed influence is difficult if not impossible to document. Certainly the claim, sometimes made after high-profile group shootings, "that cops are firing their weapons empty in panic, is not supported by the facts," he stresses."

Here is an article about how suspects can be shot in the back.  
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/shotinback.pdf


Here is an article about police shootings
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/tellingthetruth.pdf

Here is a study about police shootings and citizen behaviors.
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/shotsfired.pdf

Here is a study about the reaction times in lethal force encounters.

http://www.forcescience.org/articles/tempestudy.pdf

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by patric

A dashboard camera would have been handy in identifying the mysterious "white car" that caused a Tulsa police captain to drive his car into a light pole on the Sand Springs expressway at 3am Monday.

Probably fell asleep at the wheel.....

Kinda suspected something like that when every cop in the county didnt drop everything and race to rescue him.  I still think continuous dashcams would do more good than harm.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by patric

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by patric

A dashboard camera would have been handy in identifying the mysterious "white car" that caused a Tulsa police captain to drive his car into a light pole on the Sand Springs expressway at 3am Monday.

Probably fell asleep at the wheel.....

P




Kinda suspected something like that when every cop in the county didnt drop everything and race to rescue him.  I still think continuous dashcams would do more good than harm.

Policemen frequently work a lot of overtime, either on the job, or moonlighting at a second job (using our police cruiser and our fuel to rent his/her badge out after workhours for extra pay).

He was probably just tired.

What's he gonna say:  "I fell asleep at the wheel".

or,

"A white car ran me off the road."

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

I was wondering when you would show up.  Get tired of trying to convince people that Kathy Taylor isn't really a Tulsa resident?

Stupid bear. Maybe you could get some "intelligence training".

Since you brought up Amadou Diallo, Did you know the officers were aquitted of all state charges and the Justice department refused to prosecute them.

Here are some links:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/verdict.html
http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/aftermath.html

http://www.courttv.com/archive/news/2001/0131/diallo_ap.html

Simple reason:

There is NO such legal concept as an "unjustified" police shooting.

As to a police prosecution by the U.S. Department of Injustice, pshaw.

Find an unjustified police shooting.  Find: One.  The legal concept doesn't exist.

I'm sure the four remorseful police plainclothes shooters that shot an innocent man 41 times, scoring only 19 hits, including one in the sole of his foot, felt really, really bad about the shooting.......

Scoring a miserable, less than 50% hit-rate, from 15' means much, much more time at the Police Firing Range.

Practice, practice......

P.S.  Exactly HOW is a citizen supposed to surrender to the police when he being shot at 41 times, and hit 19 times?

How?

Sheriff Andy's precautions regarding Deputy Barney Fife come to mind:  Give Barney ONE Bullet; but make him keep it in his pocket.....

[:O]

An unjustified police shooting is called Homicide, manslaughter, Shooting with Intent to kill, AWDW ect.

As far as unjustified police shootings, there are many.  Just google it and you will see officers prosecuted and found guilty.

The newest study I found was conducted by Dr. Aveni.  Dr. Aveni spent more than 6 months dissecting material from  major departments, including Los Angeles County (LAC) New York City, Baltimore County (MD), Miami, Portland (OR) and Washington (DC).

The study showed that "while it has long been believed that officers overall have a dismal 15-25 per cent hit probability in street encounters, suggesting truly poor performance under the stress of a real shooting situation. Actually, this figure, while essentially true in the aggregate, is markedly skewed by certain shooting variables.

During a 13-year span, the Baltimore County PD, which Aveni regards as one of the best trained in the country, achieved an average hit ratio of 64 per cent in daylight shootings-not ideal, but clearly much better than commonly believed. In shootings that occurred in low-light surroundings, however, average hits dropped to 45 per cent, a 30 per cent decline. The data from Los Angeles County (LAC) reveals a somewhat comparable 24 per cent decline.

Until this research, performance has never been accurately matched to lighting conditions, even though as many as 77 per cent of police shootings are believed to occur under some degree of diminished lighting. Some departments tally "outdoor" versus "indoor" shootings, but most appear not to precisely differentiate between low-light and ample-light events, despite the preponderance of shootings during nighttime duty tours.

A multiple-officer shooting, in which more than one officer fires during a deadly force engagement, has an even greater influence on hit probability, Aveni discovered.

According to the LAC data, when only one officer fired during an encounter, the average hit ratio was 51 per cent. When an additional officer got involved in shooting, hits dropped dramatically, to 23 per cent. With more than 2 officers shooting, the average hit ratio was only 9 per cent--"a whopping 82 per cent declination," Aveni points out.

Multiple-officer shootings, Aveni told Force Science News, are three times more likely to involve suspects with shoulder weapons than single-officer shootings. This tends to "increase the typical stand-off distance," he says. Many of these confrontations also embody fast-changing, chaotic and complex circumstances. These factors, Aveni believes, help explain the negative impact on accuracy.

Aveni also discovered a correlation between multiple-officer shootings and number of rounds fired.

With LAC shootings involving only one officer, an average of 3.59 police rounds were fired. When 2 officers got involved, the average jumped to 4.98 rounds and with 3 officers or more to 6.48. "The number of rounds fired per officer increases in multiple-officer shootings by as much as 45 per cent over single-officer shootings," Aveni says.

Again, he judges distance to be a likely factor. "A higher volume of fire may be used to compensate for the lower hit ratio as distance increases," he speculates. He believes the highly violent nature these events often present may be influential, too. Anecdotally bunch shootings appear to encompass "many of the barricaded gunman scenarios, drawn-out foot and vehicular pursuits, subjects experiencing violent psychotic episodes, gang attacks and encounters involving heavily armed suspects," such as the infamous FBI Miami shootout and the North Hollywood bank robbery street battle.

"Emotional contagion," where officers fire merely because others are shooting, is almost certainly an element of at least some multiple-officer shootings, Aveni concedes. But the extent of this assumed influence is difficult if not impossible to document. Certainly the claim, sometimes made after high-profile group shootings, "that cops are firing their weapons empty in panic, is not supported by the facts," he stresses."

Here is an article about how suspects can be shot in the back.  
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/shotinback.pdf


Here is an article about police shootings
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/tellingthetruth.pdf

Here is a study about police shootings and citizen behaviors.
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/shotsfired.pdf

Here is a study about the reaction times in lethal force encounters.

http://www.forcescience.org/articles/tempestudy.pdf

VERY interesting links.

I didn't realize that ammunition companies advertised in police journals about the efficacy of their EXPLOSIVE bullets.

Advertised to cause maximim fragmentation and wounding/death to anyone hit with an explosive bullet.

Curiously, the Geneva and Hague Conventions have OUTLAWED such bullets as hollow-point, exploding, or frangible for the use in military small arms.

Yet, the same military small arms are used by our Police to blow GIANT holes in suspects.

Ouch.  A sucking chest wound, caused by one of these bullets, makes a yawning wound the size of a canteloupe.  That's gotta really hurt.

You'd think our Police would at least adher to the Geneva and Hague Conventions with regards to treatment of their fellow citizens.

[:O]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by MH2010

I was wondering when you would show up.  Get tired of trying to convince people that Kathy Taylor isn't really a Tulsa resident?

Stupid bear. Maybe you could get some "intelligence training".

Since you brought up Amadou Diallo, Did you know the officers were aquitted of all state charges and the Justice department refused to prosecute them.

Here are some links:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/verdict.html
http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/aftermath.html

http://www.courttv.com/archive/news/2001/0131/diallo_ap.html

Simple reason:

There is NO such legal concept as an "unjustified" police shooting.

As to a police prosecution by the U.S. Department of Injustice, pshaw.

Find an unjustified police shooting.  Find: One.  The legal concept doesn't exist.

I'm sure the four remorseful police plainclothes shooters that shot an innocent man 41 times, scoring only 19 hits, including one in the sole of his foot, felt really, really bad about the shooting.......

Scoring a miserable, less than 50% hit-rate, from 15' means much, much more time at the Police Firing Range.

Practice, practice......

P.S.  Exactly HOW is a citizen supposed to surrender to the police when he being shot at 41 times, and hit 19 times?

How?

Sheriff Andy's precautions regarding Deputy Barney Fife come to mind:  Give Barney ONE Bullet; but make him keep it in his pocket.....

[:O]

An unjustified police shooting is called Homicide, manslaughter, Shooting with Intent to kill, AWDW ect.

As far as unjustified police shootings, there are many.  Just google it and you will see officers prosecuted and found guilty.

The newest study I found was conducted by Dr. Aveni.  Dr. Aveni spent more than 6 months dissecting material from  major departments, including Los Angeles County (LAC) New York City, Baltimore County (MD), Miami, Portland (OR) and Washington (DC).

The study showed that "while it has long been believed that officers overall have a dismal 15-25 per cent hit probability in street encounters, suggesting truly poor performance under the stress of a real shooting situation. Actually, this figure, while essentially true in the aggregate, is markedly skewed by certain shooting variables.

During a 13-year span, the Baltimore County PD, which Aveni regards as one of the best trained in the country, achieved an average hit ratio of 64 per cent in daylight shootings-not ideal, but clearly much better than commonly believed. In shootings that occurred in low-light surroundings, however, average hits dropped to 45 per cent, a 30 per cent decline. The data from Los Angeles County (LAC) reveals a somewhat comparable 24 per cent decline.

Until this research, performance has never been accurately matched to lighting conditions, even though as many as 77 per cent of police shootings are believed to occur under some degree of diminished lighting. Some departments tally "outdoor" versus "indoor" shootings, but most appear not to precisely differentiate between low-light and ample-light events, despite the preponderance of shootings during nighttime duty tours.

A multiple-officer shooting, in which more than one officer fires during a deadly force engagement, has an even greater influence on hit probability, Aveni discovered.

According to the LAC data, when only one officer fired during an encounter, the average hit ratio was 51 per cent. When an additional officer got involved in shooting, hits dropped dramatically, to 23 per cent. With more than 2 officers shooting, the average hit ratio was only 9 per cent--"a whopping 82 per cent declination," Aveni points out.

Multiple-officer shootings, Aveni told Force Science News, are three times more likely to involve suspects with shoulder weapons than single-officer shootings. This tends to "increase the typical stand-off distance," he says. Many of these confrontations also embody fast-changing, chaotic and complex circumstances. These factors, Aveni believes, help explain the negative impact on accuracy.

Aveni also discovered a correlation between multiple-officer shootings and number of rounds fired.

With LAC shootings involving only one officer, an average of 3.59 police rounds were fired. When 2 officers got involved, the average jumped to 4.98 rounds and with 3 officers or more to 6.48. "The number of rounds fired per officer increases in multiple-officer shootings by as much as 45 per cent over single-officer shootings," Aveni says.

Again, he judges distance to be a likely factor. "A higher volume of fire may be used to compensate for the lower hit ratio as distance increases," he speculates. He believes the highly violent nature these events often present may be influential, too. Anecdotally bunch shootings appear to encompass "many of the barricaded gunman scenarios, drawn-out foot and vehicular pursuits, subjects experiencing violent psychotic episodes, gang attacks and encounters involving heavily armed suspects," such as the infamous FBI Miami shootout and the North Hollywood bank robbery street battle.

"Emotional contagion," where officers fire merely because others are shooting, is almost certainly an element of at least some multiple-officer shootings, Aveni concedes. But the extent of this assumed influence is difficult if not impossible to document. Certainly the claim, sometimes made after high-profile group shootings, "that cops are firing their weapons empty in panic, is not supported by the facts," he stresses."

Here is an article about how suspects can be shot in the back.  
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/shotinback.pdf


Here is an article about police shootings
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/tellingthetruth.pdf

Here is a study about police shootings and citizen behaviors.
http://www.forcescience.org/articles/shotsfired.pdf

Here is a study about the reaction times in lethal force encounters.

http://www.forcescience.org/articles/tempestudy.pdf

MH2010:

You're absolutely going to LOVE this very, very recent video taken of about 20 Philadelphia police officers beating, clubbing, and kicking the living Shi'te out of three supine, compliant suspects.

Suspects.

Notice that the Police German Shepard is under better control than the City of Brotherly Love's Men in Blue.  

Good Doggy.  Sit.  Roll-over.

Better get your emotions under control B4 clicking on this link.

It's red hot.  

Have a towel handy just in case........

It's so exciting; I just can't hide it.....

They're about to lose control and I'll bet you'll LIKE it.

Really, you're gonna LOVE this......

My personal favorite is the policeman swinging his steel baton 4-5 times AFTER the supine prisoner is completely cuffed and compliant. Then, his associate, the color-coordinated Man in Blue with clip-on Tie. decides to stomp the supine suspect's testicles into jelly.

DAMN those pesky video cameras.......There OUGHT to be a Law.  The TV helicopter video camera could have been mistaken for the ubiqitous Cell Phone Camera Gun.

Sure, the police beating was just an Anomaly.....Nothing to see here.  

Just MOVE on.

http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video?videoSourceID=1315206&flashURL=feeds/skynews/latest/flash/beating_u8559_070508.flv[:O][:O]