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Kaiser throws a couple more bucks at the river

Started by sgrizzle, March 11, 2008, 06:42:14 AM

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TheArtist

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Originally posted by Conan71

KFF's actions have been pretty stealthy.  I think intentions would become more clear if they were to buy up the houses which line Riverside between 31st and I-44 (can't remember how far south, I realize there are not houses all the way to I-44, and there are apartments closer to 31st) to create a buffer for the east side.

Considering the status as a charitable trust, the eventual intentions of the Blair property would be public use.  I suppose they could purchase the concrete plant as well and turn around and deed it to the city, if they so wished.  That property hasn't been mentioned in awhile.

Artist- I don't recall ever weighing in on a hotel near the arena other than lampooning Heavenly Hospitality a few times.  [:o)]







I remember you using that "lets not dance with the first girl that asks us to the dance" thing numerous times.

I have even railed about you using that line over and over, before..

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Originally posted by Conan71

The timing of the renderings is not all that surprising. In lieu of having the major details worked out, throw out a little more window-dressing. Even though Huffman's development is but one potential for the RFP, they've got someone who could crank out some quick renderings and build more excitement.

I did notice from the rendering that the ball park or multi-sport facility would be on the former city maintenance and engineering facility. That would be a logical use of the land.

I'm still not swayed, patience people, patience.

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Patience patience. Don't go with the first person that asks ya to the dance....

Hows that Towerview property going?
Hows that East End development going?
How many years do you have in mind for us to wait? Decades perhaps? Where are all the other offers to dance?




I dont know what other topic, other than the River Development and the Hotel you would have used that line on. And to the best of my recollection it was about the hotel development and not wanting to make any of the changes they were asking for. You kept saying, just wait, no need to go with the first girl that asks us to the dance, we will get plenty more offers "in reference to the hotel development". Would do a site search but the search engine seems to take forever lol.
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Conan71

Agreed on the West Bank development.  But I don't think I've ever weighed in on Towerview or a hotel development by the arena other than mocking the developers.  Hell, who knows maybe I have, but I don't remember.  That's the beauty of advancing age, I can always claim ignorance on dying brain cells. [:P]

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Rico

Originally by the Artist.>I am willing to bet you, most of the stuff that would have been in and along the river by 2027 (what the river vote laid out) will not be there by 2027.< end clip.

Thank goodness for small favors.


This conversation regarding the Blair land seems to have taken the tone of an item previously encompassed by the "River Tax".

I don't think D Buford was aware of that.

On another possibly related note.... You all, are aware the extent of Buford's holdings....


Conan71

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Originally posted by Rico

Originally by the Artist.>I am willing to bet you, most of the stuff that would have been in and along the river by 2027 (what the river vote laid out) will not be there by 2027.< end clip.

Thank goodness for small favors.


This conversation regarding the Blair land seems to have taken the tone of an item previously encompassed by the "River Tax".

I don't think D Buford was aware of that.

On another possibly related note.... You all, are aware the extent of Buford's holdings....





Rico, I don't have the slightest idea.  All I can imagine is my holdings are like the inverse of his.  

[}:)]
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Rico

^

The reason I bring this up... there was a rumor a while back that Buford may begin parting off his holdings.

"time to gather your winnings and move on.."

considering all this.... It just makes me wonder how much connected to anything previously placed on the table current events are.

did not mean to push the conversation towards someone knowing more than another.

If the item is to be fully looked at... all facts have to be considered. [;)]

TURobY

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No connection at all. Dan has been considering divesting some of his holdings, while investing in other things. Nothing more, nothing less. You are looking too deep into this...

Don't be surprised to see him shuffle a few things over the coming months.
---Robert

Double A

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Originally posted by Conan71

And here everyone thought Mr. Kaiser was going to pick up his marbles and go home....



No kidding! What happened to "the money will be spent somewhere else"? Guess he was bluffing. I'm glad to have called that bluff.
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sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Double A

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

And here everyone thought Mr. Kaiser was going to pick up his marbles and go home....



No kidding! What happened to "the money will be spent somewhere else"? Guess he was bluffing. I'm glad to have called that bluff.



It did, it got spent on the east side of riverside drive... could be a technicality.

Ref, can we get a ruling?

TheArtist

I hope he didnt spend the whole 100 mill on that one property? They did say they would do what they could. "No need to build piers out over sand bars, or fountains in the middle of sand bars either lol". Which begs the question. I wonder when the QT park near 41st is to go ahead? He said they would still do a scaled back version of that park.
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Vision 2025

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Originally posted by TheArtist

I hope he didnt spend the whole 100 mill on that one property? They did say they would do what they could. "No need to build piers out over sand bars, or fountains in the middle of sand bars either lol". Which begs the question. I wonder when the QT park near 41st is to go ahead? He said they would still do a scaled back version of that park.



From recent discussions with RPA, QT is proceeding with a reduced version of the 41st Street area park area.
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sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Vision 2025

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

I hope he didnt spend the whole 100 mill on that one property? They did say they would do what they could. "No need to build piers out over sand bars, or fountains in the middle of sand bars either lol". Which begs the question. I wonder when the QT park near 41st is to go ahead? He said they would still do a scaled back version of that park.



From recent discussions with RPA, QT is proceeding with a reduced version of the 41st Street area park area.



I hope so. So far their great 50th anniversary plans for 1-44&Peoria and 41st&Riverside are both.. well.. MIA.

RecycleMichael

I saw some plans for the 41st street improvements on Saturday. They are moving forward and have some nice sketches.

It will include some buildings for restrooms and a large outdoor gathering area.
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CoffeeBean

Does anyone know if the scaled-down plans are online?
 

TeeDub

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I saw some plans for the 41st street improvements on Saturday. They are moving forward and have some nice sketches.

It will include some buildings for restrooms and a large outdoor gathering area.




Good for QT.  Maybe if we are lucky they will put in a disc golf course and a rugby field near 41st too.

FOTD

For your lunch pleasure....someday we will gather at the banks of a mighty river that flows past the thrown of the great god on high ...gather with the saints and the sinners....sing that grand ole hymn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J490ZN2jV0&feature=related

It's a sing along! Something that was popular when music was spiritual....