OKC to get highrise/ possible tallest skyscraper

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

I can't find any real defining line, but here it is no matter than height you use:

500ft+  Tulsa 4   OKC 1
400ft+  Tulsa 6   OKC 4
300ft+  Tulsa 10  OKC 9
200ft+  Tulsa 16  OKC 16  Bartlesville 4
100ft+  Tulsa 29  OKC 17 Bartlesville 5

Awsome!  We win!

Lets have a day of celebration!

I propose:

"Ours is bigger than yours day"!

We all have to dress like this:

We tie if you use the 200' measure.

I was actually intrigued by the numbers. The fact that Bartlesville is such a strong third in Oklahoma when it comes to tall building surprises me a little.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by Double A

Smells like Enron to me, complete with golden parachutes for the CEOs in case of collapse.

unlike Enron, Devon isn't selling bull****.

The only way Devon and others like them go belly up is if everyone starts burning wood to keep warm.

If Devon wanted to they could probably build the building with cash only.

I think this is all BS though.  We don't need big buildings.....iconic or not.  We have plenty already.  get vacancy rates down to 15-12% and then start thinking about building capacity.  Once you start having a sustained healthy ecosystem like that you can start popping up buildings like Houston.

They may want more of their employees in one building for various reasons, including efficiencies. It may be that there is not a single building downtown, or even 2, with enough of the class A quality office space they want. Having a bunch of beat up, old out of date, run down buildings that would probably cost more to update than to build new, may not be their thing. Plus "its not their job to worry about manipulating vacancy rates".

[bigdtottown]

Enron and Devon synonymous...you're kidding right?

[okcpulse]

They have a 36 story building over 500'? they got 12' ceilings?

Chase tower has a huge first floor lobby and the top 5 floors are at least 15 to 20 feet in height.  The top 2 floors are for the Petroleum Club.  This why the tower is 36 floors but 500 feet high.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by okcpulse

They have a 36 story building over 500'? they got 12' ceilings?

Chase tower has a huge first floor lobby and the top 5 floors are at least 15 to 20 feet in height.  The top 2 floors are for the Petroleum Club.  This why the tower is 36 floors but 500 feet high.

Thanks!

[okcpulse]

No problem  I can't wait to come back to Oklahoma for vacation next month.  Five days in OKC for my family and 4 days in Tulsa for my wife's family.  I need a break from Texas.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

They have a 36 story building over 500'? they got 12' ceilings?

the Midcon tower is only 36 floors and is 513 feet. But the First Place Tower across the street is 41 floors and 516 feet.

This new building at 37 floors will likely be between 500 and 550 feet, at most. I don't see them going bigger, a million square feet of space is a ton of space for only 2,000 employees. The Williams Communication was planned for 4,000 employees in 750,000 square feet. And it's not like downtown Oklahoma City can take a bunch of new speculative space with a vacancy rate already of more than 25%. Devon is already going to be vacating a lot of space to get into this building.

[TheArtist]

Depending on the type of building it could go higher. If the building is larger at the base and gets smaller towards the top and has a spire... it could top the BOK tower height wise. They are saying they want an "iconic" building and are willing to spend 350million or more, and that will get you a good chunk of building. From what I hear so far it sounds though that it may have quite a large footprint. Iconic doesnt have to be tall or "tallest". I would rather them do something really spectacular and not as tall versus tall and bland. Quality over quantity. Something that is truly iconic, a stunningly unique and beautiful structure that is instantly recognizable the world over. Something that would give Oklahoma a snazzy, positive image. Thats something worth shooting for.

[grahambino]

http://www.newsok.com/article/3286266/

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080820_1_OKLA844602

Tallest in Oklahoma, 925 ft.

[sgrizzle]

Have they actually done engineering on this?

Going tall is one thing but that means every floor has 18foot ceilings.

Not to mention, they were planning on spending $350M, now it's $750 but it looks like comparable facilities are more in the Billion range.

More power to them, I just think they may be a bit over-reaching.

[Renaissance]

Just hope the price of oil stays above $100.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Depending on the type of building it could go higher. If the building is larger at the base and gets smaller towards the top and has a spire... it could top the BOK tower height wise. They are saying they want an "iconic" building and are willing to spend 350million or more, and that will get you a good chunk of building. From what I hear so far it sounds though that it may have quite a large footprint. Iconic doesnt have to be tall or "tallest". I would rather them do something really spectacular and not as tall versus tall and bland. Quality over quantity. Something that is truly iconic, a stunningly unique and beautiful structure that is instantly recognizable the world over. Something that would give Oklahoma a snazzy, positive image. Thats something worth shooting for.

But don't you know it's really been a craw in their teeth that they don't have the tallest building in the state.  If you read some of OKC forums, that really just jumps right out at you.  They're all about making sure they have the tallest building, which really cracks me up.

I don't care for the design, myself.  Too much glass, and it will stick out like a sore thumb in their downtown.  The difference between our arena and this thing is that this thing, in the flat land that is OKC, can be seen from the Turner Turnpike exit...the BOK Center, while it will be prominent, isn't the tallest building.

[AgentOrange]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Going tall is one thing but that means every floor has 18foot ceilings.

The only way it could have 18ft ceilings is if the floors themselves have no thickness.  18ft is the floor-to-floor height.  In a modern highrise, the distance from the floor of one floor to the celing below can be 6-8 ft to account for structure, mechanical and communication systems.  18ft floor-to-floor is fairly standard and not unusal.

But thanks for playing.

[YoungTulsan]

When can we begin construction on a few extra floors atop the BOK tower?

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by AgentOrange

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Going tall is one thing but that means every floor has 18foot ceilings.

The only way it could have 18ft ceilings is if the floors themselves have no thickness.  18ft is the floor-to-floor height.  In a modern highrise, the distance from the floor of one floor to the celing below can be 6-8 ft to account for structure, mechanical and communication systems.  18ft floor-to-floor is fairly standard and not unusal.

But thanks for playing.

18ft median occupied floor-to-floor would be highly unusual, if not an outrageous waste of space.  There's no way this building has that.

The 925 feet includes the 6-story atrium and architectural details.  There's where your discrepancy lies.