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Can a private school do this?

Started by HoneySuckle, March 13, 2008, 01:59:10 PM

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HoneySuckle

I called Victory Christian school today to ask about subbing there since I am a sub at Union High School.  Figured a nice, Christian or private type environment might be less problematic than the public school.

Only reason I picked this one is because I'm not too far from there, and also Holland Hall has their subs all in place.

Shocker, at least to me is that I was told you HAD to be a member of Victory Christian Church!

Is that legal?  Isn't that discrimination of some type?  Catholic schools hire non-Catholics, and so does Metro Christian (going to sub for them).

 

Conan71

Not much different than ORU requiring all employees to be non-tobacco users.

Being a private school, there's a whole lot of things they can include and exclude which a public school cannot.

If Cascia or BK wanted to limit employment strictly to Augustinian or Jesuit priests it's well within their rights.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

restored2x

It doesn't shock me, but it also doesn't sound right. Did they give you any reasons why they have that policy?

I'd also like to know the answer to your question. Maybe a legal eagle on here could school us (pun unintentional). Wouldn't that be discrimination based on religion? Or because of the "private" in private school, they can hire who they please?

RecycleMichael

Did you consider joining the church, getting the job, then suddenly getting real busy on Sundays?

Do they take attendance?

It is not for me, but we have friends who attend there and they really like it.

Most of us could use a little more church-ifying.
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sgrizzle

Victory also doesn't allow sex other than in the missionary position. Little shocks me.

cannon_fodder

As a religion and a non-profit they have a ton of leeway.  Though as an educational institution they probably get some state funding.

Wow, that is a great question.

I believe the answer is YES.  They have a good argument that hiring only members is essential to their stated mission of providing a moral education.  As a religious enterprise they can discriminate based on religion to a large degree AND membership institutions can give preference to members.

Not my area of study, but I think they are in the clear.
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cannon_fodder

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

Victory also doesn't allow sex other than in the missionary position. Little shocks me.



Is this sarcasm or doctrine?  I can't take anything religious as sarcasm anymore because too often it's reality.
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sgrizzle

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Victory also doesn't allow sex other than in the missionary position. Little shocks me.



Is this sarcasm or doctrine?  I can't take anything religious as sarcasm anymore because too often it's reality.



Not sarcasm, unfortunately. They have some sort of sex-ed class that states this.

tulsa_fan

I wonder if that policy only applies to subs?  I could see that more than across the board, subs are temporary in and out pepole and maybe they are more comfortable with them being members of their church.  I don't think that's really wrong, it is the church the established the school.  

 

Kashmir

I used to teach at a Catholic School in the Diocese and you wouldn't believe the packet I had to fill out upon application.  I had to get a priest's letter, etc.  However, I believe you can call the school office of any of the Catholic schools and they can hook you up with what you may need to be a sub-if you are interested.  I think all you need is the VIRTUS workshop.

Conan71

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Victory also doesn't allow sex other than in the missionary position. Little shocks me.



Is this sarcasm or doctrine?  I can't take anything religious as sarcasm anymore because too often it's reality.



Not sarcasm, unfortunately. They have some sort of sex-ed class that states this.



You know why Baptists don't have sex standing up?

They're afraid someone would see them and think they were dancing.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

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Originally posted by tulsa_fan

I wonder if that policy only applies to subs?  I could see that more than across the board, subs are temporary in and out pepole and maybe they are more comfortable with them being members of their church.  I don't think that's really wrong, it is the church the established the school.  





"subs are temporary in and out pepole"

The missionary thing?

Wilbur

I think the word PRIVATE in your topic line pretty much answers the question.

HoneySuckle

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Originally posted by tulsa_fan

I wonder if that policy only applies to subs?  I could see that more than across the board, subs are temporary in and out pepole and maybe they are more comfortable with them being members of their church.  I don't think that's really wrong, it is the church the established the school.  







No.  A friend called about 3 hours later enquiring about employment as a counsellor and was told the same.  She then asked if this rule applied only to teachers, part-time workers and counsellors, and was told that it applied to ALL employees working at the school.

And no.  I would never dream of joining their church.
 

Nick Danger

Our kids went to Grace a few years ago, and they have the same policy for all teachers. We felt this was so restrictive that the quality of teachers probably suffered, because of the smaller  pool to choose from. The lower grades were great, but the we encountered some unqualified teachers in the HS, as the subject matter became more specialized.