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FOTD
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« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2008, 03:12:18 pm »

The links are there for all to find who are not listening to fright wing radio.....we are everywhere!
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« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2008, 03:23:01 pm »

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FOTD- where in the hell do you keep finding these lib-tard blogs?  [}:)]



Speaking as a fellow lib-tard . . . they're amazingly awful, aren't they?

FOTD, can't we have a couple iof mainstream dKos links for us to sort through?
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« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2008, 03:24:00 pm »

Want to get this in before everyone goes home after a hard day of posting.

You said it was dumb.

The Obama campaign said it was racist.

It was neither.  It was a statement of fact meant to lower expectations for Ms. Clinton's performance in South Carolina.

The Clintons have put in a lifetime of serving Black people and they deserve better.

Like I said, the Obama campaign sees racism where there is none.

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« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2008, 03:55:11 pm »

All this fighting among each other is causing both Hillary and Obama to slip against McCain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
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« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2008, 03:56:52 pm »

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All this fighting among each other is causing both Hillary and Obama to slip against McCain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html




I'm not worried about that. McCain will silence his tribe but not purposely.
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« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2008, 04:54:26 pm »

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quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

All this fighting among each other is causing both Hillary and Obama to slip against McCain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html




I'm not worried about that. McCain will silence his tribe but not purposely.



There's a benefit to the GOP troops having already circled the wagons while the Dem candidates are still pissing on each other.

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« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2008, 06:26:42 pm »

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The Obama campaign said it was racist.
No, they did not.  This is a key point, not because I like to tell you you are wrong, but because it plays into Obama's strategy.
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« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2008, 08:21:09 pm »

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The Washington Post points out the whopper told by Hillary re: 1996 Bosnia trip

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/21/AR2008032102989.html



Nevermind that whopper about her Bosnia trip. Clinton says she misspoke. That makes it all better now.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/clinton-misspoke-about-bosnia-trip-campaign-says/



And here's the video story from CBS (Sorry Recycle):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4
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« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2008, 08:28:41 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

All this fighting among each other is causing both Hillary and Obama to slip against McCain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html




I'm not worried about that. McCain will silence his tribe but not purposely.



There's a benefit to the GOP troops having already circled the wagons while the Dem candidates are still pissing on each other.





And FOTD with his mouth open....
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« Reply #99 on: March 24, 2008, 08:39:34 pm »

Sucker punched again!
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« Reply #100 on: March 24, 2008, 08:54:45 pm »

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quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

All this fighting among each other is causing both Hillary and Obama to slip against McCain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html




I'm not worried about that. McCain will silence his tribe but not purposely.



There's a benefit to the GOP troops having already circled the wagons while the Dem candidates are still pissing on each other.





And FOTD with his mouth open....



Classic...

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« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2008, 09:44:06 pm »

quote:
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Want to get this in before everyone goes home after a hard day of posting.

You said it was dumb.

The Obama campaign said it was racist.

It was neither.  It was a statement of fact meant to lower expectations for Ms. Clinton's performance in South Carolina.

The Clintons have put in a lifetime of serving Black people and they deserve better.

Like I said, the Obama campaign sees racism where there is none.



Sorry.  I believe the opposite is true... Hillary Clinton could easily have gotten 25% - 40% of the black vote in South Carolina.  But her southern politician husband played games...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/01/in_contrast_to_obama_hillary_p.html

January 16, 2008
In Contrast to Obama, Hillary Plays the Race Card
By Dick Morris

On the evening of Jan. 3, it became clear that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was going to be a serious candidate for president with a viable chance of winning. The Clintons decided that he was going, inevitably, to win a virtually unanimous vote from the black community. Their own reputation for support for civil rights would make no difference.

With a black candidate within striking distance of the White House, a coalescing of black voters behind his candidacy became inevitable.

Frustratingly for the Clintons, Obama had achieved this likely solidarity among black voters without, himself, summoning racial emotions. He had gone out of his way to avoid mentioning race -- quite a contrast with Hillary, whose every speech talks about her becoming the first female president. But precisely to distinguish himself from the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of American politics, Obama resisted any racial appeal or even reference. His rhetoric, argumentation, and presentation was indistinguishable from a skilled white candidate's.

So the Clintons faced a problem: With Obama winning the black vote, how were they to win a sufficient proportion of the white electorate to offset his advantage?

Not racists themselves, they decided, nonetheless, to play the race card in order to achieve the polarization of the white vote that they needed to offset that among blacks.


They embarked on a strategy of talking about race -- mentioning Martin Luther King Jr., for example -- and asking their surrogates to do so as well. They have succeeded in making an election that was about gender and age into one that is increasingly about race.

According to the Rasmussen poll of Monday, Jan. 14, Obama leads among blacks by 66-16 while Hillary is ahead among whites by 41-27. The overall head to head is 37-30 in favor of Hillary.

It does not matter which specific reference to race can be traced to whom. Obama's campaign has resisted any temptation to campaign on race and, for an entire year, kept the issue off the front pages. Now, at the very moment that the crucial voting looms, the election is suddenly about race. Obviously, it is the Clintons' doing. Remember the adage: Who benefits?

As Super Tuesday nears, the Clintons will likely take their campaign to a new level, charging that Obama can't win.

They will never cite his skin color in this formulation, but it will be obvious to all voters what they mean: that a black cannot get elected.


The Clintons are far from above using race to win an election. Running for president in the aftermath of the 1992 Los Angeles race riots, Clinton seized on a comment made by rapper Sister Souljah in an interview with her published on May 13, 1992 in The Washington Post. She said, "If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?"

Clinton pounced, eager to show moderates that he was not a radical and was willing to defy the political correctness imposed on the Democratic Party by the civil rights leadership. In a speech to the Rainbow Coalition he said, "If you took the words 'white' and 'black' and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech," an allusion to the former Klansman then running for public office in Louisiana.

The Clintons will be very careful about how they go about injecting race into the campaign. Part of their strategy will be to provoke discussion of whether race is becoming a factor in the election. Anything that portrays Obama as black and asks about the role of race in the contest will serve their political interest. And you can bet that there is nothing they won't do ... if they can get away with it.

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Ah, the good ol' days when Dick Morris and James Carville were schilling for Bill Clinton..... and they say there's no honor among thieves....

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« Reply #102 on: March 25, 2008, 05:33:13 am »

Watching the endless compilations of Hillary video coverage last night I realized something.  

I'm an old poker player, so I tend to notice the "nervous tell."

Hillary has what is known as a nystagmic tick.  She blinks wildly and looks from the upper left to the upper right when she is being deceptive or lying.

I had to hit YouTube and watch a few of her other speeches to make sure, and-Wham!  She's firing on all cylinders with this!

Now I can't help but see it when she speaks.  What a gift, a built in BS detector.

Watch her speech on her Bosnia trip.  It's all the training you need to spot this in the future.  

Otherwise she's a fairly good poker player!


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« Reply #103 on: March 25, 2008, 06:29:46 am »

Obama surrogate Donna Brazil first introduced race as a campaign issue responding to Bill’s “fairytale” remarks.  

Accusing someone of telling fairytales is blatently racist, right?

Blacks had initially supported Clinton and held back on supporting Obama until they believed he was a viable candidate.

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« Reply #104 on: March 25, 2008, 08:05:09 am »

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Accusing someone of telling fairytales is blatently racist, right?




No, sexist I think.

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