A Special Kind of Stupid

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quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

When someone says "fairy tale" it implies Obama is uppity and does not understand his place.

Since when did being called "uppity" equate to racism?

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You have no clue from these comments what Obama has said, what calling a Jew a bloodsucker means, and what Soros has to do with this thread.

Jeremiah Wright was publicly anti-semitic along with Calipso Louie, yet did we ever hear you speak out against any of those two?  Nope.  Strange that "racism" seems to incite selective outrage with you.

Also, you decry the evils of the corporate and elitists, yet you love Soros.  How is he not a elitist and a corporate monster?

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In other words, your reply indicates you are intolerant and lack understanding.

 Let me translate this from Bulls$t to English.  "I can't think of a meaningful response so I'm going to use my two favorite buzz words."

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Sheeesh. Transcend race and talk issues.

I believe that in this entire thread the only person to label someone a racist or intolerant is YOU, so it appears that you're the only one who can't "transcend" the issue.

The trouble with "shock" talk show hosts such as Savage and Limbaughcontin and Neil Boortz and Sean Hannity is that they sanction our most base feelings and legitimatize them. They have a First Amendment right to state their foul views, but that doesn't mean that a broadcasting network, using the public airwaves, is justified in making a profit off of their aggressively vicious demagoguery.

But, of course, there are those haters who revel in their cesspool of bigotry. They are their loyal audience.

You harp and gripe about the Constitution being trampled by the current admin.  Yet, you selectively parse the First Amendment to your liking, without considering that bigots like Al Sharpton also use the public airwaves.  Why don't you lump him in with the white bigots you mentioned?

You also support a candidate who is a chameleon when it comes to guns and was for an all-out ban on handguns at one point and has come out in the past against conceal-carry.  

For someone as paranoid as you are about gov't getting into your life, don't you know they come for your guns first and start stripping away your right to free speech?  That's how it happens.  Right after that, they hack your TulsaNow account.

Cue the evil music!!!! The evil Bush 'ministration is after him...

These ladies will sing his song...

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

When someone says "fairy tale" it implies Obama is uppity and does not understand his place.

Since when did being called "uppity" equate to racism?

quote:
You have no clue from these comments what Obama has said, what calling a Jew a bloodsucker means, and what Soros has to do with this thread.

Jeremiah Wright was publicly anti-semitic along with Calipso Louie, yet did we ever hear you speak out against any of those two?  Nope.  Strange that "racism" seems to incite selective outrage with you.

Also, you decry the evils of the corporate and elitists, yet you love Soros.  How is he not a elitist and a corporate monster?

quote:
In other words, your reply indicates you are intolerant and lack understanding.

 Let me translate this from Bulls$t to English.  "I can't think of a meaningful response so I'm going to use my two favorite buzz words."

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Sheeesh. Transcend race and talk issues.

I believe that in this entire thread the only person to label someone a racist or intolerant is YOU, so it appears that you're the only one who can't "transcend" the issue.

I'm gonna open a big ol' can of worms with this, but I think it needs to be said.

If white racism is bad, then what is black racism? There seems to be a misguided belief that individual black people can't be racist, and it's just ridiculous. Of course, those in the black community won't call their disparaging remarks concerning other races as making racist remarks, instead making some noble justification for their rhetoric.

And yet, a double standard is at play here. If a white person makes a negative comment towards certain isolated shortcomings in the black community-even if they aren't directed towards the community as a whole-they are derided as racist. For instance, you could click it onto BET or any other cable channel featuring black stand-up comics, and it's "white people this, white people that," or "orientals this or that," and it all seems perfectly harmless; they seemed to be held to a different standard. But if a white comic went on television and went off on a rip about "black people this, black people that," it'd create untold amount of controversy, assuming they'd even put such a comic on TV in the first place.

Race isn't that complicated an issue. There's bigotry on both sides, unfortunately some are judged by a different standard.

So, you are a worm?

Oppression never happened to whitey.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


Oppression never happened to whitey.

Sure it has, it's called "political correctness"

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


Oppression never happened to whitey.

Sure it has, it's called "political correctness"

I'm no worm. While I don't seek to intentionally offend most people, I do believe that the truth of a matter is important no matter who it helps, no matter who it hurts in the long run. Racism is not a social ill practiced exclusively by whites!

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


Oppression never happened to whitey.

Sure it has, it's called "political correctness"

Now that's unintentionally funny. Sort of like when Montgomery Burns says:

"Well, for once, the rich white man is in control."

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


Oppression never happened to whitey.

Sure it has, it's called "political correctness"

Pathetic.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

So, you are a worm?

Oppression never happened to whitey.

Have you never picked up a history book?  White people have been enslaved and oppressed throughout history.  No ethnic group has escaped unscathed throughout time.

Your ignorance on virtually every topic would be entertaining if it weren't so depressing.

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quote:Originally posted by iplaw No ethnic group has escaped unscathed throughout time.

Except the Jews.  No one ever picks on them.

(sorry, I really couldn't resist)

[edit]in case anyone missed it, this is sarcasm because Jewish history is full of enslavement, persecution, and hostility towards them and in the modern world most Jews are white - in light of the statement white people don't get picked on it seemed relevant[/edit]

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

So, you are a worm?

Oppression never happened to whitey.

Have you never picked up a history book?  White people have been enslaved and oppressed throughout history.  No ethnic group has escaped unscathed throughout time.

Your ignorance on virtually every topic would be entertaining if it weren't so depressing.

And it's good that we're no talking about minority-on-white hate crime, because i'd have plenty to say on that little subject!

[FOTD]

White people have been but not because they're white.....

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

White people have been but not because they're white.....

Racism takes many forms, see the history of Israel during WWII.  What did it matter what the color of their skin was?  Would it really matter to you if you were oppressed because of your skin color or because of the religion you belong to?  Oppression is oppression no matter the foolish reasoning behind it.

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quote:Originally posted by FOTD

White people have been but not because they're white.....

So does that mean refusing to hire, do business with profiling, stereotyping, or otherwise treating white Jews different because of their ethnic identity is somehow lesser than being racist against blacks?

I understand Jews are not a "race" as is a too common perception, but as a group they are subject to similar stereotyping as blacks, and have been treated just as poorly (or worse) in the past.  Not pointing anything out in relation to that fact, but just trying to clarify if a struggle against bigotry based on class, religion, or origin is really that much different than bigotry based on skin color.

IMHO, the Jews that I know are light hearted about the stereotypes and I am not aware of any real prejudice (other than the extreme KKK/Nazi types) - but certainly it was more common in the past and I doubt it is altogether gone.

/again, just brought up Jews because it seemed an easy point of debate as most are familiar with their struggles.

What about Armenians at the hands of the Turks?  They're Caucasian (by definition) and were persecuted just on race.

[FOTD]

Armenians were oppressed and suffered genocide over Nationalism not due to being white....

"William Tell has stretched his bow till it won't stretch
No furthermore and it may require a change that hasn't come before." Hunter/Garcia

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

White people have been but not because they're white.....

Well, certain official and unofficial affirmative action measures don't exactly bear witness to that statement!

[FOTD]

Another special kind of stupid:

Rush Limbaugh 'Dreaming' Of Riots In Denver

Talk Show Host Wants America To See Actions Of 'Far Left'

POSTED: 11:37 am MDT April 24, 2008
UPDATED: 1:30 pm MDT April 25, 2008


DENVER -- Talk show host Rush Limbaugh is sparking controversy again after he made comments that appear to call for riots in Denver during the Democratic National Convention this summer.

He said the riots would ensure a Democrat is not elected as president, and his listeners have a responsibility to make sure it happens.

"Riots in Denver, the Democrat Convention would see to it that we don't elect Democrats," Limbaugh said during Wednesday's radio broadcast. He then went on to say that's the best thing that could happen to the country.  

Limbaugh cited Al Sharpton, saying the Barack Obama supporter threatened to superdelegates that "there's going to be trouble" if the presidency is taken from Obama.

Several callers called in to the radio show to denounce Limbaugh's comments, when he later stated, "I am not inspiring or inciting riots, I am dreaming of riots in Denver."

Limbaugh said with massive riots in Denver, which he called part of "Operation Chaos," the people on the far left would look bad.

"There won't be riots at our convention," Limbaugh said of the Republican National Convention. "We don't riot. We don't burn our cars. We don't burn down our houses. We don't kill our children. We don't do half the things the American left does."

He believes electing Democrats will hurt America's security and economy and appeared to call on his listeners to make sure that doesn't happen.

"We do, hopefully, the right thing for the sake of this country. We're the only one in charge of our affairs. We don't farm out our defense if we elect Democrats ... and riots in Denver, at the Democratic Convention will see to it we don't elect Democrats. And that's the best damn thing that can happen to this country, as far as I can think," Limbaugh said.

Later, Limbaugh downplayed his "dreaming of riots in Denver" statement, and said that he wasn't calling for riots and was referring to warnings of trouble if superdelegates decide the nomination at the Democratic National Convention.

Limbaugh's comments prompted Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper to say, "Anyone who would call for riots in an American city has clearly lost their bearings."

Denver will host the DNC on Aug. 25 to Aug. 28.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15980105/detail.html

Don't everyone jump in at once to back Rush up on this illegal activity.