Updates on Abundant Life Bldg (Tulsa Club moved to its own thread)

[Townsend]

So I drove by the Abundant Life building today and thought of two things.

1. My disgust
2. this thread.

Anyone hear anything recently?

[SXSW]

I think it needs to meet the wrecking ball.  A parking lot is better than that eyesore, and at least holds the promise of being redeveloped in the future.  Boulder would be perfect for 2-3 story townhomes.  Back in the day it looked like Cheyenne and Carson do now with large homes facing the street...

[Townsend]

Back in the day it looked like Cheyenne and Carson do now with large homes facing the street...

I know it.  I've seen the pictures.  Thanks Oral.  (place frowny face flippin' the bird here)

[SXSW]

I know it.  I've seen the pictures.  Thanks Oral.  (place frowny face flippin' the bird here)

Very sad...this was Boulder in area of the Abundant Life building:


And this was at 18th & Main by Boulder (now Veterans) Park where there is a parking lot now:


The area is perfect for medium density residential, and in a better location than any of the other residential areas in and around downtown due to its proximity to midtown and the river..

[carltonplace]

wow, how could anyone tear that down ^

I wonder if we'll hear that once the ALB is gone?

[Conan71]

wow, how could anyone tear that down ^

I wonder if we'll hear that once the ALB is gone?

Because developers in this town have a short attention span.  As an alternate, we could have land sprawl like OKC instead.  Not sure which is worse.

[Teatownclown]

Developers? We had a commission form of government that was beholden to the bankers, investors, and opportunists. There's similar structure's just east of there that remain but not in good shape. Many years later, the  2300 apartment complex served the affluent. IT needs an exterior face lift. But there's not much chance of that because at the time it was built the code no doubt left it to some committee which later went away. Time marches on.

I think we have land sprawl here. It's called the burbs.

[Conan71]

Developers? We had a commission form of government that was beholden to the bankers, investors, and opportunists. There's similar structure's just east of there that remain but not in good shape. Many years later, the  2300 apartment complex served the affluent. IT needs an exterior face lift. But there's not much chance of that because at the time it was built the code no doubt left it to some committee which later went away. Time marches on.

I think we have land sprawl here. It's called the burbs.

But not on near the scale of OK Shitty, would you agree?

[carltonplace]

But not on near the scale of OK Shitty, would you agree?

Not even close, anywhere Tulsa is 20 minutes tops. I heard this once, but I forget the the contirbutor: "Oklahoma City is so flat and barren you can watch your dog run away all day".

[SXSW]

The 18th/21st & Boston area still has a lot of those apartment buildings.  The area was once a dense residential neighborhoodand and can be again.  It's a blank slate, just parking lots at 18th & Boulder/Main.  

If there is any location in Tulsa that makes the most sense for new urban apartments and townhomes it's that area, IMO.  There is an existing restaurant/nightlife district at 18th & Boston that is within walking distance.  One of the nicest neighborhoods in the city is to the east and south (Maple Ridge), with another great neighborhood just to the west (Riverview).  The riverfront is a few blocks away, downtown is just to the north, Cherry Street and Brookside are close by.  

[Red Arrow]

Not even close, anywhere Tulsa is 20 minutes tops.

Certain times and corridors I still allow 30 to 40 min.

[custosnox]

Not even close, anywhere Tulsa is 20 minutes tops. I heard this once, but I forget the the contirbutor: "Oklahoma City is so flat and barren you can watch your dog run away all day".

Leaving at a non-high-traffic time it takes me anywhere from 25-30 mins to get to work in the morning.  Of course I do live several miles from the nearest highway, in virtually every direction, and I apparently managed to tick off a gypsy somewhere down the line that cursed me to hit 90% of all traffic lights red.

[Conan71]

I apparently managed to tick off a gypsy somewhere down the line that cursed me to hit 90% of all traffic lights red.

Of course you realize "gypsy" is now considered an ethnic slur. 

[Townsend]

Of course you realize "gypsy" is now considered an ethnic slur.

http://www.ricksteves.com/plan/destinations/spain/gypsies.htm

Both the English word "Gypsy" and its Spanish counterpart, gitano, come from the word "Egypt" — where Europeans used to think these nomadic people originated. Today, as we've come to understand that "Gypsies" actually came from India — and as the term "Gypsy" has acquired negative connotations — the preferred term is "Roma." After migrating from India in the 14th century, the Roma people settled mostly in the Muslim-occupied lands in the south (such as the Balkan Peninsula, then controlled by the Ottoman Turks). Under the Muslims, the Roma enjoyed relative tolerance. They were traditionally good with crafts and animals.

[custosnox]

Of course you realize "gypsy" is now considered an ethnic slur. 

Might explain how I ticked em off than