Updates on Abundant Life Bldg (Tulsa Club moved to its own thread)

[SXSW]

While I look forward to progress on the Tulsa Club building I'm still curious about the Abundant Life Building.

As I drive by it every day I've noticed more pieces have fallen off of it and the trees on the roof are getting bigger.

I really wish I had something positive to post about the site/building but I don't.

Anyone hear anything about the old Oral Roberts ministry building?

Thanks

Who actually owns it now?  I know local architect Brian Freese has proposed turning this into condos, though I imagine it would have to be easier to just tear it down. 

If you look at the Beryl Ford photos that stretch of Boulder used to be lined with mansions similar to what is left of them on Cheyenne and Denver north of 18th.  The clearing out of parts of downtown during Urban Renewal is often discussed but what happened in Riverview is just as bad. 

[Conan71]

Looks like Friese owns it or at least is the registered agent for it according to the Tulsa County Assessor web site.

"Boulder Green" gave a quit claim deed to "DCH Enterprises" on 12/27/12.  The following day, DCH did a quit claim to "David Horton Ministries, Inc."

Curious if that's a way to dodge property taxes or are churches exempt from property tax?

Assuming it's not exempt, taxes are almost $11K per year.  That's a lot to keep sinking into it with no activity going on. 

If anyone else cares to look it up, it's parcel 15350-92-12-04690

http://www.assessor.tulsacounty.org/assessor-property.php

[TeeDub]

Curious if that's a way to dodge property taxes or are churches exempt from property tax?

Of course it's a tax dodge.    Why should religions have to pay taxes?   I think atheists should get a discount too.

http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-01/05-tax-exemptions-of-religious-property.html

[sgrizzle]

Of course it's a tax dodge.    Why should religions have to pay taxes?   I think atheists should get a discount too.

http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-01/05-tax-exemptions-of-religious-property.html

Atheists don't believe in discounts.

[dbacksfan 2.0]

Had to find Abandoned Oklahoma website for pictures of Abundant Life, I couldn't remember if the building had any windows in it. Turns out it doesn't, so if someone were to repurpose the building they would have to almost strip it completely the skeleton and rebuild it. Probably cheaper to just tear it down and build new.

http://www.abandonedok.com/abundant-life-building/#/

[carltonplace]

When Jesus is in your building there is no need to see outside

[Townsend]

When Jesus is in your building there is no need to see outside

well unless it's the other Jesus...

[BKDotCom]

big greenhouse.

how much of the tithe goes to heat/cool that thing?

[dbacksfan 2.0]

big greenhouse.

how much of the tithe goes to heat/cool that thing?

Probably as much as the cost for cleaning the windows.

[LeGenDz]

Who actually owns it now?  I know local architect Brian Freese has proposed turning this into condos, though I imagine it would have to be easier to just tear it down. 

If you look at the Beryl Ford photos that stretch of Boulder used to be lined with mansions similar to what is left of them on Cheyenne and Denver north of 18th.  The clearing out of parts of downtown during Urban Renewal is often discussed but what happened in Riverview is just as bad. 

Last I remember he said he was going to strip it down to the metal. Something about not being able to get the same strength steel now-a-days as already present in the original skeleton.

[TulsaGuy]

Tulsa Club back on the market, unfortunately it doesnt look like the redevelopment worked out for the current owner. 

Anybody have any insight as to why?  Asbestos cleanup? 

Hope someone can restore this gem of a Tulsa Building. 

[SXSW]

I wonder if Brickhugger would be interested?  They at least have experience with similar neglected buildings and a good track record, plus deep pockets.

[BKDotCom]

Very discouraging 

[tulsabink]

This building must be saved somehow.....I no longer live in Tulsa.  Moved to Dallas years ago when Tulsa was tearing everything down and the old fart, 'no taxes for Tulsa' crowd was in its ascendancy.  Will this Bruce Goff masterpiece go the way of so many other outstanding Tulsa buildings?  There seems to be an almost suicidal bent among certain Tulsans to eradicate anything historic.  I didn't get it then and I certainly don't understand it now when almost every city in America, large and small is saving and re-purposing their downtowns.  Hopefully, as others have suggested, BrickHugger may take it on.

[heironymouspasparagus]

well unless it's the other Jesus...

Crystal ComicBook Cathedral.   Drove by that place one time when in Anaheim.  Impressive, but it must cost about a billion dollars a month to keep cool...
Yeah, I know it's in Garden Grove...it was on the way....