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Predict the Day Hillary Concedes

Started by FOTD, March 22, 2008, 12:58:02 PM

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FOTD

I thought I'd let her know that dragging this out only to LOSE is not in her/America's/DNC's best interest. Or, are "they" and their followers living on another planet?

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/obama_v_mccain_and_v_clinton_b.php


May day?

RecycleMichael

Are FOTD initials to For Obama Till Death?

or maybe...****ing Obnoxious Thickheaded Disgrace?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Predict the day she concedes?  Nov. 5, 2008.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD




Tody's article not to be found around these parts....another humourous but truthful rant on what she call's the Clintonistas....mightier than the sword is her pen....


Op-Ed Columnist
Haunting Obama's Dreams

By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: March 23, 2008
WASHINGTON

Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times
Maureen Dowd

It is a tribute to Hillary Clinton that even though, rationally, political soothsayers think she can no longer win, irrationally, they wonder how she will pull it off.

It's impossible to imagine The Terminator, as a former aide calls her, giving up. Unless every circuit is out, she'll regenerate enough to claw her way out of the grave, crawl through the Rezko Memorial Lawn and up Obama's wall, hurl her torso into the house and brutally haunt his dreams.

"It's like one of those movies where you think you know the end, but then you watch with your fingers over your eyes," said one leading Democrat.

Hillary got a boost from the wackadoodle Jeremiah Wright. As a top pol noted, the Reverend turned Obama — in the minds of some working-class and crossover white voters — from "a Harvard law graduate into a South Side Black Panther."

Obama blunted the ugliness of Wright's YouTube "greatest hits" with his elegant and bold speech on race. But how will he get the genie back into the bottle?

Pressed about race on a Philly radio sports show, where he wanted to talk basketball, he called his grandmother "a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, well there's a reaction that's in our experiences that won't go away and can sometimes come out in the wrong way."

Obama might be right, but he should stay away from the phrase "typical white person" because typically white people don't like to be reminded of their prejudices. It also undermines Obama's feel-good appeal in which whites are allowed to transcend race because the candidate himself has transcended race.

Even swaddled in flags, Obama is vulnerable on the issue of patriotism. He's right that you don't have to wear a flag pin to be patriotic, and that Republicans have coarsely exploited patriotism for ideological ends while failing to do truly patriotic things, like giving our troops the right armor and the proper care at Walter Reed.

But Republicans are salivating over Reverend Wright's "God damn America" imprecation and his post-9/11 "America's chickens coming home to roost" crack, combined with Michelle Obama's aggrieved line about belatedly feeling really proud of her country.

On Friday in Charlotte, N.C., Bill Clinton, the man who once thanked an R.O.T.C. recruiter "for saving me from the draft" during Vietnam, sounded like Sean Hannity without the finesse.

Extolling John McCain as "an honorable man," and talking about McCain's friendship with his wife, the former president told veterans: "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."

Some people consider the Clintons to be the "stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics." Tony McPeak, a former Air Force chief of staff and an Obama adviser, accused Hillary's hatchet husband of McCarthyism.

After the Hillary camp lost — and trashed — Bill Richardson and was outmaneuvered by the Obama forces on mulligans in Michigan and Florida, Hillary's hopes dwindled down to the superdelegates.

If Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi are the dealmakers, it won't take Hercule Poirot to figure out who had knives out for Hillary in this "Murder on the Orient Express."

Carter, who felt he was not treated with a lot of respect by the Clintons when they were in the White House, favors Obama.

"The Clintons will be there when they need you," said a Carter friend.

Al Gore blames Bill Clinton's trysts with Monica for losing him the White House. He resented sharing the vice presidency with Hillary and sharing the donors and attention with her when she ran for Senate as he ran for president.

"There's no love between him and Hillary," said one former Clintonista. "It was like Mitterrand with his wife and girlfriend. They were always competing for the affection of the big guy."

Like Carter and Gore, Nancy Pelosi was appalled by Bill's escapades with Monica. And, as The Times's Carl Hulse wrote, the Speaker has been viewed as "putting her thumb on the scale for Mr. Obama" in recent weeks. As a leading China basher, the San Francisco pol tangled bitterly with President Clinton over his pursuit of a free-trade agreement with China, once charging him with papering over China's horrible record on human rights. And she has been put off by the abrasive ways of some top Hillary people.

If Hillary's fate falls into the hands of Jimmy, Al and Nancy, the Clinton chickens may come home to roost. "



Every Democrat I know wants her to quit. Billary are just hanging around hoping something, obviously anything, will surface to destroy Obama. It's Not There!

She needs to quit. How long is she going to drag this out against American's for progressive change?

dsjeffries

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD
Every Democrat I know wants her to quit. Billary are just hanging around hoping something, obviously anything, will surface to destroy Obama. It's Not There!

She needs to quit. How long is she going to drag this out against American's for progressive change?



I'm a hardcore Democrat and I don't want her to quit.  And she's not going to.

FOTD

Then to see the party suffer is best for you and her.

waterboy

For what its worth, I am a hard core democrat and I want to see her back down graciously. She lost. I could have supported her but...she lost. How is that so hard for everyone to see? Her views are not that different than Obama, its just a matter of style and timing. She missed her chance.

USRufnex

#7
Diebold Accidentally Leaks Results Of 2008 Election Early  [}:)]

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks

"Hillary Clinton isn't about to give up just because she lost the election.

She'll give up when she's supposed to... on election day...

AND SHE'LL ACT SURPRISED..."


FOTD

I smell a corpse rotting.

She will file as an independent on what day?

Ha Ha.

Gaspar

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Are FOTD initials to For Obama Till Death?

or maybe...****ing Obnoxious Thickheaded Disgrace?



No, It's Friends of Traditional Dance!  He has his own website http://www.fotd.org/

[;)]
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

She will not concede.  She will burn the whole thing down first.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

TulsaFan-inTexas

Hillary "thinks" this is what is best for her. She doesn't give a damn about the Democratic party. Neither she or her lying, cheating husband care about anyone other than themselves. Truth.

pmcalk

Hillary has said again and again that she won't quit until there is a nominee.  There will be a nominee when Obama reaches 2025 delegates, which he only lacks by somewhere between 150 and 180 delegates.  He should have that by May 20th, or shortly thereafter.  I have every confidence that, once Obama reaches that number, Hillary will graciously concede.  Hillary knows it's over.  Her strongest supporters--McGovern, Sharpton--have said it is over.  Paul Krugman, her tireless advocate, implied it was over today.  John Edwards hinted that it was over today.  She won't destroy the party; she just needs a graceful way to exit.
 

RecycleMichael

Here is a nice story from the founder of Emily's list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/09/AR2008050902298.html

Quitters Never Win
 
By Ellen R. Malcolm
Saturday, May 10, 2008

When I was growing up in the 1960s, I wanted to play basketball. In those days, the rules said girls could dribble only three steps and then had to pass the ball. To make sure we didn't overexert ourselves, we weren't allowed to cross the half-court line. It's a wonder our fans (our mothers) could stay awake when a typical game's final score was 14-10.

It's remarkable that my generation of women entered the workforce and began to compete in business, politics and the hurly-burly of life outside the home. How did we ever learn to locate, much less channel, our competitive instincts in a world that made us play half-court and assumed that we would be content staying home to iron the shirts? It's a tremendous tribute to women of my generation that we sucked it up and learned to compete in the toughest environments.

Which brings us to Hillary Clinton running for president. This brilliant woman believes that she can compete for the most powerful office in the world. She believes that she can do a better job than any of the men running to lead our country through these challenging times. And millions of Americans, women and men, believe that she is correct.

Yet over and over again the media and her opponents have claimed that she is defeated -- it's over, she can't win, she's a loser. And over and over again -- in New Hampshire, on Super Tuesday, in Texas and Ohio, in Pennsylvania last month, and in Indiana this week -- female voters poured out of their homes to cast their ballots for her. They know that women can compete, and they want to make sure that women, especially this woman, can win.

It's not surprising that low-income working women are the cornerstone of Hillary's success. Many of these women live on the edge of disaster. A pink slip, a family member's illness, a parent who can no longer live alone, a car that won't start or a mortgage rate that goes up -- all are threats that could devastate the family. And yet these women do what women have done for ages. They put on a confident face, feed their children breakfast and get them off to school. They don't quit. They suck it up and fight back against whatever life throws their way.

They see in Hillary Clinton a candidate who understands the pressures they face. As they watch her tough it out against all odds, refusing to quit and continuing to compete against whatever the media and her opponents throw her way, they see a woman as tough and resilient as they are. They clearly want her to win. Her victory, I believe, is their victory.

So here we are in the fourth quarter of the nominating process and the game is too close to call. Once again, the opponents and the media are calling for Hillary to quit. The first woman ever to win a presidential primary is supposed to stop competing, to curtsy and exit stage right.

Why on earth should one candidate quit before the contest is finished? Democrats need not be so fainthearted. Both of the party's remaining candidates have raised tens of millions of dollars. Both have the respect of Democrats nationwide. Each has a progressive agenda that stands in stark contrast to Sen. John McCain and his adherence to Bush administration policies.

So why are some Democrats so afraid? We simply need to count every vote, let the remaining states have their say and see the process through to its conclusion.

Hillary Clinton certainly has the right to compete till the end. But I believe Hillary also has a responsibility to play the game to its conclusion. For the women of my generation who learned to find and channel their competitiveness, for the working women who never falter in the face of pressure, for the younger women who still believe women can do anything, Hillary is a champion. She's shown us over and over that winners never quit and that quitters never win. We'll cheer her on until the game is over. And we hope that when the final whistle blows, we will have elected the first female president and the best president our country has ever had.
Power is nothing till you use it.

tim huntzinger