Arnett <HEART> Maria Barnes

[sgrizzle]

http://www.tulsatoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1502&Itemid=2

Apparently if Maria Barnes wins, the apocalypse will come.

[RecycleMichael]

I like the part where he whines that she wouldn't do another interview with him. He is a blogger, not a journalist. He writes hatchet pieces and acts like they are truth. Why would any respectable candidate talk to him?

[Conan71]

Wow, Arnutt made it through an article without once saying: "Tulsa Today, founded in 1996 is Tulsa's first and foremost...."  He didn't even invoke himself too many times.

Good job David.

[booWorld]

That was an interesting read.  I like the second photo of Maria.  The shots of Eric and his family are nice also, but the backgrounds look a bit cheesy.  We all know a McMansion looming in the background behind Eric would be so much more appropriate.

Honestly, I'm not terribly excited about either candidate, but I think either would serve District 4 well enough.

I have some issues with the draft NCD ordinance, but it's not set in stone yet.  It's merely a proposal at this point.

[LongtimeTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

That was an interesting read.  I like the second photo of Maria.  The shots of Eric and his family are nice also, but the backgrounds look a bit cheesy.  We all know a McMansion looming in the background behind Eric would be so much more appropriate.

Honestly, I'm not terribly excited about either candidate, but I think either would serve District 4 well enough.

I have some issues with the draft NCD ordinance, but it's not set in stone yet.  It's merely a proposal at this point.

Just do some casual research on CDs - their necessity becomes more evident as city after city is being robbed of historic neighborhoods and replaced with cheesy, oversized boxes. Highland Park in Dallas is an excellent example. More questions will emerge the deeper you dig.

The National Historic Trust will be holding its annual meeting in Tulsa in Oct to bring attention the demise of Tulsa. CDs are an excellent method by which each neighborhood gets a say - it is a win-win.

BTW - The issue isn't going to go away regardless of who gets elected. The infill is affecting the infrastructure. Just wait till no one can explain all the flooding in your neighborhood. People get involved when it gets personal. Note that all of the articles/ letters have been from RE people. That should say volumes.

[booWorld]

quote:Originally posted by LongtimeTulsan

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

That was an interesting read.  I like the second photo of Maria.  The shots of Eric and his family are nice also, but the backgrounds look a bit cheesy.  We all know a McMansion looming in the background behind Eric would be so much more appropriate.

Honestly, I'm not terribly excited about either candidate, but I think either would serve District 4 well enough.

I have some issues with the draft NCD ordinance, but it's not set in stone yet.  It's merely a proposal at this point.

Just do some casual research on CDs - their necessity becomes more evident as city after city is being robbed of historic neighborhoods and replaced with cheesy, oversized boxes. Highland Park in Dallas is an excellent example. More questions will emerge the deeper you dig.

The National Historic Trust will be holding its annual meeting in Tulsa in Oct to bring attention the demise of Tulsa. CDs are an excellent method by which each neighborhood gets a say - it is a win-win.

BTW - The issue isn't going to go away regardless of who gets elected. The infill is affecting the infrastructure. Just wait till no one can explain all the flooding in your neighborhood. People get involved when it gets personal. Note that all of the articles/ letters have been from RE people. That should say volumes.

I've done more than casual research on the subject of NCDs.  I've been looking into the issue for about 10 years since the local chapter of the American Institute of Architects wrote a letter to the Infill Study Task Force in support of them.

Of all the people in Tulsa, I'm definitely not one who is stalling on this.  Maria Barnes is the one who said to slow down and take a breath.

I'm not a real estate person, but I'm a realist.  People in Tulsa don't like to be told what they can and can't do with their real estate.  

You are correct.  This issue isn't going away.  But when I try to make suggestions about zoning, I am villainized -- especially on this forum.  I'm not opposed to self-imposed property restrictions.  But when some people try to impose restrictions on others who don't want them, then I have a problem with that.

This is being argued as a voluntary process.  As the draft ordinance is written, that's not a certainty.

[Conan71]

I'm trying to learn more about conservation districts, infill, etc.  TulsaNow has definitely made me much more aware of them.

I'm all for individual property rights until I  drive down a block of 1930's tudor, bungalows, and gingerbreads and I see where some A-hole built a house with a style that belongs in Vandiver East out in Broken Arrow.  [xx(]

I don't see how the right of one home owner should supercede the rights of 12 or 16 other people on a block, especially if the solo property owner builds something way out of character with the rest of the homes on a block.

[booWorld]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I'm trying to learn more about conservation districts, infill, etc.  TulsaNow has definitely made me much more aware of them.

I'm all for individual property rights until I  drive down a block of 1930's tudor, bungalows, and gingerbreads and I see where some A-hole built a house with a style that belongs in Vandiver East out in Broken Arrow.  [xx(]

I don't see how the right of one home owner should supercede the rights of 12 or 16 other people on a block, especially if the solo property owner builds something way out of character with the rest of the homes on a block.

I'm not sure what Vandiver East looks like, but the way Tulsa zoning works now, most blocks (although not all -- mine, for example) are in the same zoning district.  If a block is all the same zoning district, then each property owner on the block has the same rights, including the right to build an absolutely hideous house completely out of character with the neighborhood.

This forum and BatesLine have several links to conservation districts.  Conservation Districts could be a way for some neighborhoods to help preserve their character (to an extent).  The example you give would not be covered under the current draft ordinance, however.  There would need to be at least 30 houses to form a Conservation District according to the proposed draft ordinance.


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