Cherry Street Lofts (for real.... honest)

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

I think these structures are great.  I live 2 blocks south of the Full Moon.  Some of the houses they took over were in bad shape and with seemingly no attempt to revive them.  Good for metro lofts.  Cherry Street needs more walking traffic and this will help.  Now, if they could just get some street lights on cherry.

NOOOOOOOO!, puleeeeze no. Are you insane?! There is enough ambient light from the shops and things there. Its actually a very good example of what good street lighting can be like. Everything is perfectly visible, has a nice warm welcoming glow. They stick a bunch of those glaring, cold, stark acorn lights in that area and it would ruin the comfortable atmosphere. I do like the gas lights though. More of those would be perfectly fine. But please lets not turn that strip into a dayglo, big box glare, strip. It would run people off and kill the night time pedestrian atmosphere.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

I think these structures are great.  I live 2 blocks south of the Full Moon.  Some of the houses they took over were in bad shape and with seemingly no attempt to revive them.  Good for metro lofts.  Cherry Street needs more walking traffic and this will help.  Now, if they could just get some street lights on cherry.

NOOOOOOOO!, puleeeeze no. Are you insane?! There is enough ambient light from the shops and things there. Its actually a very good example of what good street lighting can be like. Everything is perfectly visible, has a nice warm welcoming glow. They stick a bunch of those glaring, cold, stark acorn lights in that area and it would ruin the comfortable atmosphere. I do like the gas lights though. More of those would be perfectly fine. But please lets not turn that strip into a dayglo, big box glare, strip. It would run people off and kill the night time pedestrian atmosphere.

I agree 100%.  Cherry Street comfortable at night because of the warm and diverse lighting patterns.  Mercury Vapor disease has killed many of our wonderful evening venues, by creating uncomfortable glare and making your date look like an anemic zombie.  Cherry Street is bright enough to be safe, yet comfortable enough for an evening stroll without SPF 30.

[mlofts]

just a few notes:

The first units we did were done with compressed cement board siding.  I see a post on here noting that the siding was buckling etc.  I'm sure this is just someone trying to give it a bad reputation as these units are fully warranted and I have not noticed any buckling.  Due to the nature of a compressed cement board they are rigid and will look somewhat wavy day 1 but they are a lifetime material.  Tulsans did not like the look so we started using materials they did like such as stucco brick and cedar.  We also have instructed our designers to address the street in all future projects such as the units on Quincy Carson and anything built after our first year.  I am unsure of what drainage problems the bungalow remodel (inverted roof) has.  Again same person posting negative comments. This was designed by same NINE architect and has about a 12' pan with a channeling system on the roof.  It will run down a chain drain into a resevoir on the front and back.  As to the garages I agree that it would be nice to avoid them.  This is not feasable for these lots due to their narrow orientation.  Also the city requires two parking spaces per unit.  I would rather people just park on the streets but so far this is the only way to create more affordable housing in the area.  I have seen amazing finishes on the interior of these units .  These buyers and now homeowners have a common trait of loving design and think incredibly fast forward.  I highly doubt these types of people will allow their homes to be a fad or even a tear down as mentioned in a post.  These properties have a homeowners association and allow for no excuse to neglect upkeep over time.  We do not plan to go south of 15th as this is historic and we have completed nine remodels in the last year in that area bringing historic bungalows back to their original shape and charm.  This is one of my favorite parts of construction.  The north side of 15th is used for architectural expression and we have learned a great deal from the input on this thread as well as put that knowledge to use.    It is too bad that many people are so fearful of change as I am very proud of what this neighborhood has become.  I have been living and walking in this neighborhood for almost 4 years now and have seen such a shift in the energy.  We have neighborhood happy hours, a fenced dog park, a private gallery was established and featured local artists on Friday nights where new homeowners as well as old were able to get to know one another.  The city made us close the gallery because they considered it a commercial space although it was my private home.  I chose not to argue, that was so disappointing.  Anyway,  if anyone can complain about the neighborhood I hope this helps you see a positive side to it.  We are all happy here and know each other well.  We have common interests and a love for design.  These projects get better with time and due to the increased values in the area they can only allow for better through the years.  My .02 worth.

amanda

[si_uk_lon_ok]

quote:Originally posted by mlofts

just a few notes:

The first units we did were done with compressed cement board siding.  I see a post on here noting that the siding was buckling etc.  I'm sure this is just someone trying to give it a bad reputation as these units are fully warranted and I have not noticed any buckling.  Due to the nature of a compressed cement board they are rigid and will look somewhat wavy day 1 but they are a lifetime material.  Tulsans did not like the look so we started using materials they did like such as stucco brick and cedar.  We also have instructed our designers to address the street in all future projects such as the units on Quincy Carson and anything built after our first year.  I am unsure of what drainage problems the bungalow remodel (inverted roof) has.  Again same person posting negative comments. This was designed by same NINE architect and has about a 12' pan with a channeling system on the roof.  It will run down a chain drain into a resevoir on the front and back.  As to the garages I agree that it would be nice to avoid them.  This is not feasable for these lots due to their narrow orientation.  Also the city requires two parking spaces per unit.  I would rather people just park on the streets but so far this is the only way to create more affordable housing in the area.  I have seen amazing finishes on the interior of these units .  These buyers and now homeowners have a common trait of loving design and think incredibly fast forward.  I highly doubt these types of people will allow their homes to be a fad or even a tear down as mentioned in a post.  These properties have a homeowners association and allow for no excuse to neglect upkeep over time.  We do not plan to go south of 15th as this is historic and we have completed nine remodels in the last year in that area bringing historic bungalows back to their original shape and charm.  This is one of my favorite parts of construction.  The north side of 15th is used for architectural expression and we have learned a great deal from the input on this thread as well as put that knowledge to use.    It is too bad that many people are so fearful of change as I am very proud of what this neighborhood has become.  I have been living and walking in this neighborhood for almost 4 years now and have seen such a shift in the energy.  We have neighborhood happy hours, a fenced dog park, a private gallery was established and featured local artists on Friday nights where new homeowners as well as old were able to get to know one another.  The city made us close the gallery because they considered it a commercial space although it was my private home.  I chose not to argue, that was so disappointing.  Anyway,  if anyone can complain about the neighborhood I hope this helps you see a positive side to it.  We are all happy here and know each other well.  We have common interests and a love for design.  These projects get better with time and due to the increased values in the area they can only allow for better through the years.  My .02 worth.

amanda

Thanks for posting mlofts, its always good to hear the other side of the story.

As for my comments on the garages, I'm aware that it's not the developers fault they feature, but rather the planners who insist on 2 spaces per house. It seems crazy that there is a minimum and not a maximum standard for parking. I think it should have in retrospect been made clearer that it is a general problem and not a specific one.

I really think its great that there are people investing in Tulsa with their own money. That shows a degree of faith in Tulsa more than cheap talk does.

[SXSW]

One of the units in Oklahoma's first LEED Platinum townhouse on Rockford is currently for sale.  Very cool interior and amazing skyline view..


http://homesite.obeo.com/viewer/default.aspx?tourid=532768&refURL=http://www.trulia.com/property/1033894046-1409-S-Rockford-Ave-Tulsa-OK-74120&locale=en-US

[Gaspar]

One of the units in Oklahoma's first LEED Platinum townhouse on Rockford is currently for sale.  Very cool interior and amazing skyline view..


http://homesite.obeo.com/viewer/default.aspx?tourid=532768&refURL=http://www.trulia.com/property/1033894046-1409-S-Rockford-Ave-Tulsa-OK-74120&locale=en-US

For sale again?  Is the architect moving out?

[Gaspar]

Love the interior!!!

Looks like the "green roof" didn't make it.  What's up with that?

[SXSW]

Love the interior!!!

Looks like the "green roof" didn't make it.  What's up with that?

Same here, I'm going for that look in my new house.  This project, designed by local architect Shelby Navarro, is the best of the new townhouses/lofts that have gone up in Cherry Street, IMO. 

I noticed one of these north of 15th on Trenton (north of the car wash) is still unfinished and looks like work has stopped completely.  I wonder how one would go about buying this from the developer (or bank most likely) and either finishing it or starting over?  All of the others, while they may not all be full, at least are finished except this one. 

Speaking of Trenton there is an old fire station at the corner of 14th I noticed the other day.  I emailed the City to see who owns it or if it was for sale and got a call that there is an RFP being put together by the City.  It would make a really cool office for a small business or a house.

[Conan71]

Same here, I'm going for that look in my new house.  This project, designed by local architect Shelby Navarro, is the best of the new townhouses/lofts that have gone up in Cherry Street, IMO. 

I noticed one of these north of 15th on Trenton (north of the car wash) is still unfinished and looks like work has stopped completely.  I wonder how one would go about buying this from the developer (or bank most likely) and either finishing it or starting over?  All of the others, while they may not all be full, at least are finished except this one. 

Speaking of Trenton there is an old fire station at the corner of 14th I noticed the other day.  I emailed the City to see who owns it or if it was for sale and got a call that there is an RFP being put together by the City.  It would make a really cool office for a small business or a house.

I saw two guys walking around and looking at the fire station on Tuesday afternoon, would one of those guys have been you?

[Breadburner]

I heard the old fire station has already been sold.......I can find out more if you like......

[Gaspar]

One of the units in Oklahoma's first LEED Platinum townhouse on Rockford is currently for sale.  Very cool interior and amazing skyline view..


http://homesite.obeo.com/viewer/default.aspx?tourid=532768&refURL=http://www.trulia.com/property/1033894046-1409-S-Rockford-Ave-Tulsa-OK-74120&locale=en-US

$164.33 a sq/ft. . . cough.

[dbacks fan]

$374,000.00?? 

[dbacks fan]

Same here, I'm going for that look in my new house.  This project, designed by local architect Shelby Navarro, is the best of the new townhouses/lofts that have gone up in Cherry Street, IMO.  

I noticed one of these north of 15th on Trenton (north of the car wash) is still unfinished and looks like work has stopped completely.  I wonder how one would go about buying this from the developer (or bank most likely) and either finishing it or starting over?  All of the others, while they may not all be full, at least are finished except this one.  

Speaking of Trenton there is an old fire station at the corner of 14th I noticed the other day.  I emailed the City to see who owns it or if it was for sale and got a call that there is an RFP being put together by the City.  It would make a really cool office for a small business or a house.

I lived in Tulsa for 34 years and drove by here countless times and never new it was a fire station. And I do remember when there where homes where the BA is now.

[SXSW]

I saw two guys walking around and looking at the fire station on Tuesday afternoon, would one of those guys have been you?

If it was around 2 then yes.     I'm looking at some other properties around there too.

Someone at the City told me they are turning it over to TDA which is issuing the RFP.  I'm on the list to get info. as soon as it's available.

[Cats Cats Cats]

I am upset that they would put new construction there.  They should take down these lofts and return to the original original architecture of the area sod houses.