So Just How Bad Does Vista Suck?

[Dana431]

quote:Originally posted by bugo

Vista sucks, long live XP!

Keep dreaming about the past while the world passes you by.

[EricP]

quote:Originally posted by bugo

I don't see what's so great about Vista to warrant upgrading your computer.  I'm using Vista right now, and I hate it.  It's frustrating, and every time IE freezes, instead of recovering, it restarts, going to the home page instead of the site you were on.  Vista sucks, long live XP!

We'll see how I manage in a month or so. My XP box has a 17 week uptime right now... since the ice storm. I've researched all the drivers for my components and made sure a Vista64 version is available. If you are having crashes, you should probably try and do something about it

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by bugo

I don't see what's so great about Vista to warrant upgrading your computer.  I'm using Vista right now, and I hate it.  It's frustrating, and every time IE freezes, instead of recovering, it restarts, going to the home page instead of the site you were on.  Vista sucks, long live XP!

let me guess, you installed Vista on a non vista ready PC.....or you have slapped together some homebrew PC without checking for drivers first.

IE7 does not exhibit the problem you say...but then I don't go to pr0n sites with viruses and phishing popups so maybe that is your problem.[}:)]

[custosnox]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by bugo

I don't see what's so great about Vista to warrant upgrading your computer.  I'm using Vista right now, and I hate it.  It's frustrating, and every time IE freezes, instead of recovering, it restarts, going to the home page instead of the site you were on.  Vista sucks, long live XP!

let me guess, you installed Vista on a non vista ready PC.....or you have slapped together some homebrew PC without checking for drivers first.

IE7 does not exhibit the problem you say...but then I don't go to pr0n sites with viruses and phishing popups so maybe that is your problem.[}:)]

Nah, the p0rn sites don't crash IE7 either.  I spend plenty of time there (gotta love insomnia coupled with internet).

[Gaspar]

Ya gota love how every Microsoft related thread becomes a Technical Support Forum! [}:)]

[lsimmons]

Vista works fine. I've been running it for years, since Alpha stages actually but not on my primary system. It will take a bit to get used to at first but not even CLOSE to the time it would take you to get used to OSX, if you've never used it. And yes, I run both.

For hardware, plan on a minimum of 2Gigs (4 would be better) of RAM and at least Dual Core proc for starters. That's pretty much the lower end of what's selling these days anyway.

Any big box PC will have to be "decrapified" to help with resources. Heh, gotta love that term.
I would also kill Aero, unless you like the transparent BS. Kill UAC, one of the most annoying things MS has done in a long while. Kill the side bar. It looks cool at first but I found a just prefer my homepage for RSS feeds and such. I 100% agree with making sure you have a Norton/Symantec free PC. That stuff is garbage and they should be ashamed. Mcafee isn't much better.

Bottom line is that it's just a change. With a few tweaks here and there and a good start with the hardware, you'll be fine. Vista is not the demon people have made it out to be.

Best of luck.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

Ya gota love how every Microsoft related thread becomes a Technical Support Forum! [}:)]

i'd rather have that than a religious crusade on an Apple thread.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

Ya gota love how every Microsoft related thread becomes a Technical Support Forum! [}:)]

i'd rather have that than a religious crusade on an Apple thread.

Blasphemy! [:O]

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by lsimmons

Vista works fine. I've been running it for years, since Alpha stages actually but not on my primary system. It will take a bit to get used to at first but not even CLOSE to the time it would take you to get used to OSX, if you've never used it. And yes, I run both.

For hardware, plan on a minimum of 2Gigs (4 would be better) of RAM and at least Dual Core proc for starters. That's pretty much the lower end of what's selling these days anyway.

Any big box PC will have to be "decrapified" to help with resources. Heh, gotta love that term.
I would also kill Aero, unless you like the transparent BS. Kill UAC, one of the most annoying things MS has done in a long while. Kill the side bar. It looks cool at first but I found a just prefer my homepage for RSS feeds and such. I 100% agree with making sure you have a Norton/Symantec free PC. That stuff is garbage and they should be ashamed. Mcafee isn't much better.

Bottom line is that it's just a change. With a few tweaks here and there and a good start with the hardware, you'll be fine. Vista is not the demon people have made it out to be.

Best of luck.

Advice taken- got dual core processer and two gigs of RAM.  Now I just need to get used to the interface and sift back through the different thoughts and ideas here on how to tune it for best performance.

One thing I'm not doing right away is taking all the default MS updates, I've found that my old box seemed to get slower and slower as I would allow more MS updates.

Thanks for everyone's help.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by lsimmons

Vista works fine. I've been running it for years, since Alpha stages actually but not on my primary system. It will take a bit to get used to at first but not even CLOSE to the time it would take you to get used to OSX, if you've never used it. And yes, I run both.

For hardware, plan on a minimum of 2Gigs (4 would be better) of RAM and at least Dual Core proc for starters. That's pretty much the lower end of what's selling these days anyway.

Any big box PC will have to be "decrapified" to help with resources. Heh, gotta love that term.
I would also kill Aero, unless you like the transparent BS. Kill UAC, one of the most annoying things MS has done in a long while. Kill the side bar. It looks cool at first but I found a just prefer my homepage for RSS feeds and such. I 100% agree with making sure you have a Norton/Symantec free PC. That stuff is garbage and they should be ashamed. Mcafee isn't much better.

Bottom line is that it's just a change. With a few tweaks here and there and a good start with the hardware, you'll be fine. Vista is not the demon people have made it out to be.

Best of luck.

Advice taken- got dual core processer and two gigs of RAM.  Now I just need to get used to the interface and sift back through the different thoughts and ideas here on how to tune it for best performance.

One thing I'm not doing right away is taking all the default MS updates, I've found that my old box seemed to get slower and slower as I would allow more MS updates.

Thanks for everyone's help.

get SP1, it is a good rollup of all the updates.

[custosnox]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by lsimmons

Vista works fine. I've been running it for years, since Alpha stages actually but not on my primary system. It will take a bit to get used to at first but not even CLOSE to the time it would take you to get used to OSX, if you've never used it. And yes, I run both.

For hardware, plan on a minimum of 2Gigs (4 would be better) of RAM and at least Dual Core proc for starters. That's pretty much the lower end of what's selling these days anyway.

Any big box PC will have to be "decrapified" to help with resources. Heh, gotta love that term.
I would also kill Aero, unless you like the transparent BS. Kill UAC, one of the most annoying things MS has done in a long while. Kill the side bar. It looks cool at first but I found a just prefer my homepage for RSS feeds and such. I 100% agree with making sure you have a Norton/Symantec free PC. That stuff is garbage and they should be ashamed. Mcafee isn't much better.

Bottom line is that it's just a change. With a few tweaks here and there and a good start with the hardware, you'll be fine. Vista is not the demon people have made it out to be.

Best of luck.

Advice taken- got dual core processer and two gigs of RAM.  Now I just need to get used to the interface and sift back through the different thoughts and ideas here on how to tune it for best performance.

One thing I'm not doing right away is taking all the default MS updates, I've found that my old box seemed to get slower and slower as I would allow more MS updates.

Thanks for everyone's help.

http://vistaonwindows.com/tips-and-tweaks.html

There is a better list out there, I just can't remember where I found it at

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by custosnox

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by lsimmons

Vista works fine. I've been running it for years, since Alpha stages actually but not on my primary system. It will take a bit to get used to at first but not even CLOSE to the time it would take you to get used to OSX, if you've never used it. And yes, I run both.

For hardware, plan on a minimum of 2Gigs (4 would be better) of RAM and at least Dual Core proc for starters. That's pretty much the lower end of what's selling these days anyway.

Any big box PC will have to be "decrapified" to help with resources. Heh, gotta love that term.
I would also kill Aero, unless you like the transparent BS. Kill UAC, one of the most annoying things MS has done in a long while. Kill the side bar. It looks cool at first but I found a just prefer my homepage for RSS feeds and such. I 100% agree with making sure you have a Norton/Symantec free PC. That stuff is garbage and they should be ashamed. Mcafee isn't much better.

Bottom line is that it's just a change. With a few tweaks here and there and a good start with the hardware, you'll be fine. Vista is not the demon people have made it out to be.

Best of luck.

Advice taken- got dual core processer and two gigs of RAM.  Now I just need to get used to the interface and sift back through the different thoughts and ideas here on how to tune it for best performance.

One thing I'm not doing right away is taking all the default MS updates, I've found that my old box seemed to get slower and slower as I would allow more MS updates.

Thanks for everyone's help.

http://vistaonwindows.com/tips-and-tweaks.html

There is a better list out there, I just can't remember where I found it at

not a page website, but just one comment about Readyboost...it should be used to provide a consistent cache hit.  See, with Vista it looks at your apps usage and caches those apps because it thinks  you will use them the next time you are on the computer.  However, if your evil twin gets on the computer and starts using the PC completely differently you will see a performance hit because Vista will not have those other items cached.  Readyboost gets around that by simply caching the hell out of everything and putting it on a memory stick or whatever.  Vista will look at a Readyboost cache before anything else.

I confirmed this when I only had 2Gb, but I haven't tried it since I went to 4.  Vista may be able to cache the hell out of everything now with 4 and not need Readyboost.

[custosnox]

from everything I've read on ready boost, once you pass the 2gig mark on your RAM, it's redundant.

[inteller]

that's probably the case, but I think I'm still getting cache misses when I launch apps that I very rarely use.

[jamesrage]

My main beef with Vista is all the extra hardware requirements.I will probably wait until the last minute before I upgrade to Vista.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#System_requirements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista#Hardware_requirements