Just bitter words...

[Bledsoe]

Then there is Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary:

"    I was born in Scranton, Pennsylvania, 61 years ago. My father sold $1.98 cotton blouses to blue-collar women and women whose husbands worked in factories. Years later, I was secretary of labor of the United States, and I tried the best I could â€" which wasn’t nearly good enough â€" to help reverse one of the most troublesome trends America has faced: The stagnation of middle-class wages and the expansion of povety. Male hourly wages began to drop in the early 1970s, adjusted for inflation. The average man in his 30s is earning less than his father did thirty years ago. Yet America is far richer. Where did the money go? To the top.

   Are Americans who have been left behind frustrated? Of course. And their frustrations, their anger and, yes, sometimes their bitterness, have been used since then -- by demagogues, by nationalists and xenophobes, by radical conservatives, by political nuts and fanatical fruitcakes â€" to blame immigrants and foreign traders, to blame blacks and the poor, to blame "liberal elites," to blame anyone and anything.

   Rather than counter all this, the American media have wallowed in it. Some, like Fox News and talk radio, have given the haters and blamers their very own megaphones. The rest have merely "reported on" it. Instead of focusing on how to get Americans good jobs again; instead of admitting too many of our schools are failing and our kids are falling behind their contemporaries in Europe, Japan, and even China; instead of showing why we need a more progressive tax system to finance better schools and access to health care, and green technologies that might create new manufacturing jobs, our national discussion has been mired in the old politics."

Read the whole post:  http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-bitterness-meet-press-and-old.html

[FOTD]

Bittergate....ha ha

Bitter Voters For Obama
http://www.bittervoters.org/
Is 'BitterGate' The End for Hillary? Carter and Gore may say "Yes."

If you aren't the least bit bitter about what has happened to our country in 7 years, then you aren't paying much attention.
Put that lapel pin on and know the one's without them on are not proud about our direction....unless their employer is forcing them to wear lapel pins ala CBS Sports!

[iplaw]

The entertainment value of this primary season so far is just fantastic...I'm waiting until Hillary steals the nomination from Obama via superdelegates at the convention.  Oh the weeping and gnashing of teeth yet to come.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

The entertainment value of this primary season so far is just fantastic...I'm waiting until Hillary steals the nomination from Obama via superdelegates at the convention.  Oh the weeping and gnashing of teeth yet to come.

Democrats will not be weepie as they finish off Clinton creepie. I am looking forward to the Repug Convention....when I can catch up on snoozing while they're boozing. I will watch to see if McCain't find the podium....

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

The entertainment value of this primary season so far is just fantastic...I'm waiting until Hillary steals the nomination from Obama via superdelegates at the convention.  Oh the weeping and gnashing of teeth yet to come.

Democrats will not be weepie as they finish off Clinton creepie. I am looking forward to the Repug Convention....when I can catch up on snoozing while they're boozing. I will watch to see if McCain't find the podium....

Sounds like someone's been spending too much time over at the dailykos.  You should clean your keyboard off before visiting this forum.  We don't know where you've been...

[Breadburner]

He needs a keyboard condom on top of a breathalyzer keyboard to keep him from posting under the influence....

[pmcalk]

Robert Reich has some interesting comments to make regarding the whole incident:

quote:Are Americans who have been left behind frustrated? Of course. And their frustrations, their anger and, yes, sometimes their bitterness, have been used since then -- by demagogues, by nationalists and xenophobes, by radical conservatives, by political nuts and fanatical fruitcakes – to blame immigrants and foreign traders, to blame blacks and the poor, to blame "liberal elites," to blame anyone and anything.

Rather than counter all this, the American media have wallowed in it. Some, like Fox News and talk radio, have given the haters and blamers their very own megaphones. The rest have merely "reported on" it. Instead of focusing on how to get Americans good jobs again; instead of admitting too many of our schools are failing and our kids are falling behind their contemporaries in Europe, Japan, and even China; instead of showing why we need a more progressive tax system to finance better schools and access to health care, and green technologies that might create new manufacturing jobs, our national discussion has been mired in the old politics.

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-bitterness-meet-press-and-old.html.

I actually don't know if Reich has officially endorsed Obama, but his comments (along with others) seem to indicate that he supports Obama.  I find it interesting that those who have worked so closely with the Clintons (Richardson, Reich) actually support Obama.

[FOTD]

I am posting under the influence of the Bushevik Empire. And condoms are worn for prevention of disease and pregnancy despite some who would condone their use as a substitute for education.....

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by FauxTurD

I am posting under the influence of the Bushevik Empire. And condoms are worn for prevention of disease and pregnancy despite some who would condone their use as a substitute for education.....

I think you may want to rephrase that if that's supposed to be a knock against abstinence education.

[FOTD]

I am not knocking abstinence education which would have been more appropriate for your parents time period.[:X]

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Obama hasn't attacked Hillary? What kind of selective hearing do you have?

"Hillary Clinton. She knows better. Shame on her."

"She's packing a six-shooter. Come on... I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blind."

Unlike Hillary, Obama never took out an ad exploiting her "mistatements" regarding Bosnia.  That would have been an easy, republican way to slam her.  She, on the other hand, now is running an ad claiming that Obama is out of touch.  Obama did nothing more than point out the truth--why republicans are able to get votes in rural America.  It's the same thing that her husband said so many years ago.  I never thought I would see one democrat attacking another on such a thing.

She should be very careful--this is very likely to backfire against her.  Already, she has been booedat the Alliance for American Manufacturing.  And people may become more angry at her for her Rovian attacks than they are about the comment.

[RecycleMichael]

She has to buy ads for her messages. Obama gets free press for everything he says.

He is also outspending her 3 to one on television and has a reported five to one edge in paid staffers in Pennsylvania.

Why is he still behind?

What is wrong with Obama that he can't relate to the voters of Pennsylvania? How can you be so far ahead nationally and spend so much money and still be behind?

Answer that.

[Gaspar]

He doesn't even have to say a word.  Reminds me of the young girls fainting at Elvis and Beetles concerts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEnI-1IdFLs

Perhaps Hill should explore some bodily functions while at the podium.

[RecycleMichael]

"I don't think the people of Pennsylvania are bitter. And I have licked a few."

Stephen Colbert

[Gaspar]

My observation is that Obama is naturally charismatic and Hillary is a natural politician.  Therefore they fight in different ways.

Hillary must resort to pandering to whatever crowd she is speaking to.  If it's a big ex-military crowd she has to attempt to connect with them (hence the sniper fire comment).  If she is confronted with country folk, she tries to be country.  In any case she is unsuccessful because she is a known entity.  Her attempts to reinvent herself only serve to make her look silly.

Obama's is fueled by Hillary's attempts to pander.  Without it she is hard for him to defend against.

Obama is an unknown entity so he has the ability to morph to fit his constituency.  His biggest weakness is that he is becoming known!  

His comments about guns and religion, and his connection to Wright reflect his real un-filtered views.  Many of his constituency will continue to identify with him, but some will be repelled.  The more we know the more he looses his polish, the less his charisma works.  Magic is not magic when you know the trick!

I think both of their attempts to identify with the moderate left are clumsy and insincere.  Hillary has always been very liberal, that is known.  Obama is irrefutably liberal.  

So they make mistakes is when they attempt to appear moderate.  Otherwise they run a good campaign.  Unfortunately now is the time when they have to attempt to pull in the moderates and independents, so now is the time that we will see them stumble.  It's unavoidable.