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Started by RecycleMichael, April 12, 2008, 07:18:06 PM

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pmcalk

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

She has to buy ads for her messages. Obama gets free press for everything he says.

He is also outspending her 3 to one on television and has a reported five to one edge in paid staffers in Pennsylvania.

Why is he still behind?

What is wrong with Obama that he can't relate to the voters of Pennsylvania? How can you be so far ahead nationally and spend so much money and still be behind?

Answer that.



Really, RM, are you that cynical that you believe whomever spends the most money should win an election?  Shouldn't Ross Perot be president, then?  Do you really think that Hillary's 20 point lead in Pennsylvania was cut in half simply because Obama spent more money than her?  You really don't think much of Pennsylvanians, do you?

By the way, Hillary had more money, more name recognition, and more endorsements at the start of this campaign.  Why is she losing?  What is wrong with her that, after 8 years as first lady, the majority of people in her very own party want someone else as president?
 

FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

She has to buy ads for her messages. Obama gets free press for everything he says.

He is also outspending her 3 to one on television and has a reported five to one edge in paid staffers in Pennsylvania.

Why is he still behind?

What is wrong with Obama that he can't relate to the voters of Pennsylvania? How can you be so far ahead nationally and spend so much money and still be behind?

Answer that.



You're such a whiner. He's a lot closer than he was two months ago. Racism is hard to overcome.

Hillary gets more media coverage lately. Especially, when she pretends to get hammered....

FOTD

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Originally posted by pmcalk

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Obama hasn't attacked Hillary? What kind of selective hearing do you have?

"Hillary Clinton. She knows better. Shame on her."

"She's packing a six-shooter. Come on... I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blind."







Unlike Hillary, Obama never took out an ad exploiting her "mistatements" regarding Bosnia.  That would have been an easy, republican way to slam her.  She, on the other hand, now is running an ad claiming that Obama is out of touch.  Obama did nothing more than point out the truth--why republicans are able to get votes in rural America.  It's the same thing that her husband said so many years ago.  I never thought I would see one democrat attacking another on such a thing.

She should be very careful--this is very likely to backfire against her.  Already, she has been booedat the Alliance for American Manufacturing.  And people may become more angry at her for her Rovian attacks than they are about the comment.



"I used to love her, but it's all over now."
Heck, the sight of her makes me wonder if Vince Foster did commit suicide after all....

Conan71

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Originally posted by FOTD

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Originally posted by pmcalk

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Obama hasn't attacked Hillary? What kind of selective hearing do you have?

"Hillary Clinton. She knows better. Shame on her."

"She's packing a six-shooter. Come on... I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blind."







Unlike Hillary, Obama never took out an ad exploiting her "mistatements" regarding Bosnia.  That would have been an easy, republican way to slam her.  She, on the other hand, now is running an ad claiming that Obama is out of touch.  Obama did nothing more than point out the truth--why republicans are able to get votes in rural America.  It's the same thing that her husband said so many years ago.  I never thought I would see one democrat attacking another on such a thing.

She should be very careful--this is very likely to backfire against her.  Already, she has been booedat the Alliance for American Manufacturing.  And people may become more angry at her for her Rovian attacks than they are about the comment.



"I used to love her, but it's all over now."
Heck, the sight of her makes me wonder if Vince Foster did commit suicide after all....



"IF" Foster committed suicide?

Funny all you former Clintonites who are finally now seeing who/what these people really are and the backs they've stepped on and broken to get to where they are.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Carl Bernstein sez it best:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/carl-bernstein-what-a-hillary-clinton-presidency-look-like/

There is a time to every purpose and at one time in 1992, Bill Clinton was the right man at the right time. Bush was not. Hillary is not.

Conan71

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Originally posted by FOTD

Carl Bernstein sez it best:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/carl-bernstein-what-a-hillary-clinton-presidency-look-like/

There is a time to every purpose and at one time in 1992, Bill Clinton was the right man at the right time. Bush was not. Hillary is not.



What's the saying?  Hillarity isn't half the man Bill was...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Ed W

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Originally posted by Gaspar


Hillary has always been very liberal, that is known.  Obama is irrefutably liberal.  





The word 'liberal' has been over used and distorted by the right wing.  It has to be their near favorite pejorative.  Why else would a couple of conservatives start calling each other liberals when they get steamed up?

To reiterate - Senators Clinton and Obama are only liberal by Oklahoma standards.  They're fairly middle-of-the-road Democrats.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

iplaw

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Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Obama hasn't attacked Hillary? What kind of selective hearing do you have?

"Hillary Clinton. She knows better. Shame on her."

"She's packing a six-shooter. Come on... I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blind."







Unlike Hillary, Obama never took out an ad exploiting her "mistatements" regarding Bosnia.  That would have been an easy, republican way to slam her.  She, on the other hand, now is running an ad claiming that Obama is out of touch.  Obama did nothing more than point out the truth--why republicans are able to get votes in rural America.  It's the same thing that her husband said so many years ago.  I never thought I would see one democrat attacking another on such a thing.

She should be very careful--this is very likely to backfire against her.  Already, she has been booedat the Alliance for American Manufacturing.  And people may become more angry at her for her Rovian attacks than they are about the comment.

So the evil republicans are the only ones who engage in smear politics?  Did you miss the General Betrayus ads?

iplaw

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Originally posted by Ed W

The word 'liberal' has been over used and distorted by the right wing.  It has to be their near favorite pejorative.  Why else would a couple of conservatives start calling each other liberals when they get steamed up?


Yeah like the term "neocon" for the left...

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To reiterate - Senators Clinton and Obama are only liberal by Oklahoma standards.  They're fairly middle-of-the-road Democrats.



Not according to the national journal, which has been consistently used as a reliable measurement of politicians and voting record for years.  Their studies are even cited by NPR.


FOTD

#54
I still think he is betraying US citizens.

Neoconned again.....


And btw, the term radical would be opposite neocon....not "liberal". Conservative....liberal. Get it?

RecycleMichael

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Originally posted by Gaspar
His biggest weakness is that he is becoming known!  


Well said.

The more America gets to know his pastor, his mob friends and his thoughts on poor people, the more trouble he gets in.

His campaign is spiraling down and his Obama people act like it is all Hillary's fault. This campaign will teach him well and he should be better prepared next time.
Power is nothing till you use it.

FOTD

More nonsense from you RM.

You need to seek better news sources than talk radio and teevee.

You never address issues. Instead, you attack values and beliefs which should be personal. His campaihn is not spiraling down. His organizational skills beat both McSame and Billary. Once he puts Hillarity away in May, the second coming commences. Bet you never thought the lord would return once again black.

pmcalk

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar
His biggest weakness is that he is becoming known!  


Well said.

The more America gets to know his pastor, his mob friends and his thoughts on poor people, the more trouble he gets in.

His campaign is spiraling down and his Obama people act like it is all Hillary's fault. This campaign will teach him well and he should be better prepared next time.



Better prepared?  Hillary was the presumptive nominee in January, and her campaign has all but fallen apart.  She has had to replace two key people, and still cannot seem to regain any momentum.  Her campaign has been a lesson in ill-prepared.

You didn't answer my earlier question--what is wrong with Hillary that, despite her money, her name recognition, and her suppose experience, less than half of democrats want her to be president?
 

iplaw

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Originally posted by FOTD

More nonsense from you RM.

You need to seek better news sources than talk radio and teevee.

You never address issues. Instead, you attack values and beliefs which should be personal. His campaihn is not spiraling down. His organizational skills beat both McSame and Billary. Once he puts Hillarity away in May, the second coming commences. Bet you never thought the lord would return once again black.

This coming from the guy that links to smokingmirrors, the dailykos, and huffintonpost...

People are just now exposing BO to the light of day, and unfortunately for him, soon people are going to demand that he actually take a position on at least one issue.



RecycleMichael

Hillary was ahead until Obama started getting all the positive press possible. The media attacked Hillary and praised Obama from the Iowa primary on. He is a great candidate and was getting all the good press.

But by April, people started asking deeper questions about him. His background and his friends suddenly became news and it began to trouble many Americans. Now he is being compared to the last two nominees, Al Gore and John Kerry. I thought they were both good men and both got my vote. But most of America saw them as aloof and elitist.

Hillary is doing better now and should close this race over the next few primaries. The rules for caucuses were followed by Obama better so he is ahead on delegate count. But if the primaries had been winner-take-all, Hillary would be ahead in delegates.

The general election is winner-take-all. It is one more reason why Hillary is the stronger candidate for the democrats in November.
Power is nothing till you use it.