re: swimming pool in the fron yard in Bren Rose

[Limabean]

Why is there a swimming pool in the front yard of the house at 31st and Victor?

[AngieB]

So they can watch the youngans swim from the couch on the porch?

[dbacks fan]

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[tulsa1603]

quote:Originally posted by Limabean

Why is there a swimming pool in the front yard of the house at 31st and Victor?

Which house is this?  One of the new ones??

[YoungTulsan]

The one they are building?  Perhaps they haven't built their giant wall yet.  Would make sense to build that last.

[LongtimeTulsan]

The house in question is located in the v shaped lot at 31st and Victor (Utica). It is where a one story has stood for years. A builder bought the lot, scrapped it, and built two oversized things. Builder was very insistant of having a Victor address. Builder was also very insistent that the pool is in the back yard (what back yard.

The permit office okayed the request - they weren't familiar enough with the location to realize that builder was being a little loose with the truth.

So now there is the beginnings of a pool in the front yard. City people were there about 10:30 am. Hopefully it will be shut down.

There are also detached garages being built in the front yard of several homes. One on Detroit, another around 26th and Lewis.

It is truly the citizens responsibility to help police these situations. The permit office is at the mercy of whatever the builders say.

[spoonbill]

quote:Originally posted by LongtimeTulsan

The house in question is located in the v shaped lot at 31st and Victor (Utica). It is where a one story has stood for years. A builder bought the lot, scrapped it, and built two oversized things. Builder was very insistant of having a Victor address. Builder was also very insistent that the pool is in the back yard (what back yard.

The permit office okayed the request - they weren't familiar enough with the location to realize that builder was being a little loose with the truth.

So now there is the beginnings of a pool in the front yard. City people were there about 10:30 am. Hopefully it will be shut down.

There are also detached garages being built in the front yard of several homes. One on Detroit, another around 26th and Lewis.

It is truly the citizens responsibility to help police these situations. The permit office is at the mercy of whatever the builders say.

Who is the builder?  I want a name!  It is also the responsibility of fellow builders to chastise from within their ranks.

[cannon_fodder]

This is the new construction at 31st and essentially Utica...

Frankly, with the way those things are crammed onto the lot there is no good place to put it.  The "front yard" faces Victor, if they put it in the "back yard" it would be within feet of 31st.  They really don't have a back yard.

That lot is such a strange place that I think it is being well used by packing 2 structures on it.  Really, when it had the single small house on it the yard was worthless because of the location.  At least, IMHO.

[TheArtist]

Oh yea, now I remember those homes. They look to be an improvement from what was there and yea, either way you place the pool, front or back, your on a road. But, you know I am not fond of this "wall building" trend we are seeing. It wont matter what the houses look like if they keep it up. We will just be driving down walled alleys. Dont think it can happen? I have seen it happen in other cities and its not pretty.

[YoungTulsan]

So what happens if the city decides to widen 31st street?  Do they tear down the $750,000 house that is 3 feet from the curb?

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

So what happens if the city decides to widen 31st street?  Do they tear down the $750,000 house that is 3 feet from the curb?

Never gonna happen......

[OurTulsa]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

So what happens if the city decides to widen 31st street?  Do they tear down the $750,000 house that is 3 feet from the curb?

Widened?  Not there, not enough ROW along that strip.  If anything, the lane capacity needs to be modified.  4 lanes along this stretch of 31st from the River to at least Lewis if not Harvard is irresponsible.  The street should be 3 lanes with adequate storm water and sidewalks provided.

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by OurTulsa

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

So what happens if the city decides to widen 31st street?  Do they tear down the $750,000 house that is 3 feet from the curb?

Widened?  Not there, not enough ROW along that strip.  If anything, the lane capacity needs to be modified.  4 lanes along this stretch of 31st from the River to at least Lewis if not Harvard is irresponsible.  The street should be 3 lanes with adequate storm water and sidewalks provided.

I wasn't really suggesting it needed to be widened.  But, just a minor variation is all it takes when someone builds a house inches away from the curb.  Converting some midtown 4 lanes to 3 lanes is an interesting idea thats been tossed around on here.

[dbacks fan]

[/quote]  Converting some midtown 4 lanes to 3 lanes is an interesting idea thats been tossed around on here.
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I have often wondered why they haven't taken that approach, it keeps traffic flowing and makes turning left quite a bit safer. Most of the roads here are set up that way all the way to 5 and 6 lanes with a center "chicken" turning lane.

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by OurTulsaIf anything, the lane capacity needs to be modified.  4 lanes along this stretch of 31st from the River to at least Lewis if not Harvard is irresponsible.  The street should be 3 lanes with adequate storm water and sidewalks provided.

This is a great idea.  It should be done on 31st as well as Lewis between 21st and I-44.