Tsunami

[ARGUS]

Tsunami evicted from Jenks Riverwalk for unpaid rent. (so I heard)= not good situation.
There are several store out at the Riverwalk not doing too good it appears. I always enjoyed going to Tsunami at Riverwalk and downtown.
What gives???

[mrhaskellok]

Nordagio's too ( you probably know)  We looked at if as a potential site but people counts are way too low during the week to effectively break even.  Not all establishments will have that problem because margins will differ, but in my business (coffee) it wasn't going to work.

I do hope that is a trend that reverses soon.

[cannon_fodder]

I called to find out but the person was not in and the reception had no idea, someone call and find out instead of just posting rumors:

Riverwalk property management #:  296-7121, ext. 308

Just ask if Tsunami is leaving and under what circumstances, you should be able to get a feel for it if they won't actually tell you.

I call Tsunami Riverwalk (who has a flash website that takes forever to just load) at 298-5200, but they are only open from 5-10pm.
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I appreciate the scoop, but it could be detrimental to a business if it is not true.  Call someone or try to find out a little more firm please.

[sgrizzle]

You also have to understand that Riverwalk is nowhere near it's full potential. The second phase will be a big boon to the whole development. The excitement of construction alone (and the warmer weather) will help.

[Gaspar]

That's funny!  I was under the impression that they were closing because they broke the bank with overhead and poor management.  The Tsunami down town has excellent quality control and high traffic.  The profit margin on food is very modest and reliant on alcohol sales.

From day one, the Tsunami at the river has had management problems.  I've gone there three times since they opened hoping every time that they had the problems fixed.  Here's my experiences:

1. First visit. . .Sat and waited 20 minutes for a waiter.  Wife went to get the waiter.  Waiter took order.  Waited 30 minutes enjoying a beer.  Waiter came back and apologized for forgetting to put in the order.  One hour later we got the wrong order (ate it anyway).  There were only 3 other tables of people in the restaurant. Swore I would never get the waiter with the neck tattoo again!

2. Second visit. . . Ordered a beer sushi as a starter and a main course.  Wife ordered the specialty lobster salad.  Main dish came, inquired about the sushi I had ordered.  Waitress apologized.  Wife received her lobster salad 10 minutes after my main course arrived.  They had forgot to put the lobster on the LOBSTER salad.  She sent it back.  We watched it sit on the counter in front of the cook (busy chatting) for 10 minutes.  It came back 20 minutes later, I had already finished my meal. My sushi never arrived but they tried to charge me for it.  SWORE to never return!  There was only one other table of people at this time (about 5:30 pm).

3.  I'm an idiot-Third visit. . . Restaurant nearly full.  Ordered sushi and a beer as a starter.  Wife pregnant, so no shellfish.  She orders a chicken salad of some kind.  20 minutes no beer, no sushi, no waiter.  People around us start to leave upset.  We leave and go to Los Cabos for dinner.

It was only a matter of time.  They had absolutely no real management supervision!

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

You also have to understand that Riverwalk is nowhere near it's full potential. The second phase will be a big boon to the whole development. The excitement of construction alone (and the warmer weather) will help.

They better hurry up before the lender wises up or before the regulators kill their credit source.

What tenants are signed up?

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by mrhaskellok

Nordagio's too ( you probably know)  We looked at if as a potential site but people counts are way too low during the week to effectively break even.  Not all establishments will have that problem because margins will differ, but in my business (coffee) it wasn't going to work.

I do hope that is a trend that reverses soon.

They need to get more variety on the premises.  To have people buying coffee and eating food on a weekday, during the day, they need another reason to be at the river (i.e. clothing, home furnishings, art, etc.). Twenty restaurants and nothing else just won't cut it.

This is the same reason Bricktown is lame and has so much turn over with commercial space.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by mrhaskellok

Nordagio's too ( you probably know)  We looked at if as a potential site but people counts are way too low during the week to effectively break even.  Not all establishments will have that problem because margins will differ, but in my business (coffee) it wasn't going to work.

I do hope that is a trend that reverses soon.

They need to get more variety on the premises.  To have people buying coffee and eating food on a weekday, during the day, they need another reason to be at the river (i.e. clothing, home furnishings, art, etc.). Twenty restaurants and nothing else just won't cut it.

This is the same reason Bricktown is lame and has so much turn over with commercial space.

Agreed....except the scarey avatar.

[joiei]

Basically, Riverwalk is boring.  Too boring to make the drive that far down on a weekday evening for dinner.  Plus all the restaurants are lame.  There are too many better places between here and there to bother going that far.   If they improve the mix then maybe.  I would rather go to King's landing across the river, they have a better mix of better restaurants.  And the parking is better.

[Kenosha]

Interesting.

Restaurant fails in suburbs, despite redonkulous amounts of positive hype to area and retail center.

Same restaurant thrives in Downtown despite declarations that Downtown is dead and dangerous.

Hmmmm.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by joiei

Basically, Riverwalk is boring.  Too boring to make the drive that far down on a weekday evening for dinner.  Plus all the restaurants are lame.  There are too many better places between here and there to bother going that far.   If they improve the mix then maybe.  I would rather go to King's landing across the river, they have a better mix of better restaurants.  And the parking is better.

.. and facing the wrong way...

[BierGarten]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

That's funny!  I was under the impression that they were closing because they broke the bank with overhead and poor management.  The Tsunami down town has excellent quality control and high traffic.  The profit margin on food is very modest and reliant on alcohol sales.

From day one, the Tsunami at the river has had management problems.  I've gone there three times since they opened hoping every time that they had the problems fixed.  Here's my experiences:

1. First visit. . .Sat and waited 20 minutes for a waiter.  Wife went to get the waiter.  Waiter took order.  Waited 30 minutes enjoying a beer.  Waiter came back and apologized for forgetting to put in the order.  One hour later we got the wrong order (ate it anyway).  There were only 3 other tables of people in the restaurant. Swore I would never get the waiter with the neck tattoo again!

2. Second visit. . . Ordered a beer sushi as a starter and a main course.  Wife ordered the specialty lobster salad.  Main dish came, inquired about the sushi I had ordered.  Waitress apologized.  Wife received her lobster salad 10 minutes after my main course arrived.  They had forgot to put the lobster on the LOBSTER salad.  She sent it back.  We watched it sit on the counter in front of the cook (busy chatting) for 10 minutes.  It came back 20 minutes later, I had already finished my meal. My sushi never arrived but they tried to charge me for it.  SWORE to never return!  There was only one other table of people at this time (about 5:30 pm).

3.  I'm an idiot-Third visit. . . Restaurant nearly full.  Ordered sushi and a beer as a starter.  Wife pregnant, so no shellfish.  She orders a chicken salad of some kind.  20 minutes no beer, no sushi, no waiter.  People around us start to leave upset.  We leave and go to Los Cabos for dinner.

It was only a matter of time.  They had absolutely no real management supervision!

That is really interesting.  Your experiences there are very similar to my lunch experiences at the downtown Tsunami.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by BierGarten

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

That's funny!  I was under the impression that they were closing because they broke the bank with overhead and poor management.  The Tsunami down town has excellent quality control and high traffic.  The profit margin on food is very modest and reliant on alcohol sales.

From day one, the Tsunami at the river has had management problems.  I've gone there three times since they opened hoping every time that they had the problems fixed.  Here's my experiences:

1. First visit. . .Sat and waited 20 minutes for a waiter.  Wife went to get the waiter.  Waiter took order.  Waited 30 minutes enjoying a beer.  Waiter came back and apologized for forgetting to put in the order.  One hour later we got the wrong order (ate it anyway).  There were only 3 other tables of people in the restaurant. Swore I would never get the waiter with the neck tattoo again!

2. Second visit. . . Ordered a beer sushi as a starter and a main course.  Wife ordered the specialty lobster salad.  Main dish came, inquired about the sushi I had ordered.  Waitress apologized.  Wife received her lobster salad 10 minutes after my main course arrived.  They had forgot to put the lobster on the LOBSTER salad.  She sent it back.  We watched it sit on the counter in front of the cook (busy chatting) for 10 minutes.  It came back 20 minutes later, I had already finished my meal. My sushi never arrived but they tried to charge me for it.  SWORE to never return!  There was only one other table of people at this time (about 5:30 pm).

3.  I'm an idiot-Third visit. . . Restaurant nearly full.  Ordered sushi and a beer as a starter.  Wife pregnant, so no shellfish.  She orders a chicken salad of some kind.  20 minutes no beer, no sushi, no waiter.  People around us start to leave upset.  We leave and go to Los Cabos for dinner.

It was only a matter of time.  They had absolutely no real management supervision!

That is really interesting.  Your experiences there are very similar to my lunch experiences at the downtown Tsunami.

I have personally never dined there, but I am picky when it comes to great service.  I often show it in the amount I tip.  If I leave a sorry tip, you should know why and vise versa.  I am not expecting to be treated like a king by any means but those above scenarios are crazy.  I would have left the first time and never looked back to visit a 2nd or 3rd.  It sounds like they got was coming.  If you have poor service, people wont visit your establishment. People talk and type on boards like this and word gets around.

[ARGUS]

Mr. Cannon Fodder, the "so I heard" was an internet forum disclosure.
What IF I had stated that it was a certain fact? This is still an internet forum rife with rumor even when the poster states an absolute fact.
Verify away please.
Other than that I do agree with your responce and would never wish ill-will.
Peace out and GO TULSA!(city)
BOOMER SOONER!

[BKDotCom]

Well... we visited the Riverwalk yesterday... they had a Art Walk mayfest of sorts going on..
Nordaggio's was up and running...   Tsunami looked open (but it wasn't their business hours)