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Will President Obama "Reset" His Message?

Started by Gaspar, June 12, 2012, 12:36:53 PM

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Townsend

Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 12, 2012, 03:08:50 PM
That what I most dislike about Romney. It is hard to believe he is the nominee. I would have thought the republican party would not have fallen for a guy like him.

He was the easiest on the eyes out of the remainder of the field.

We like him now that we don't hate him.

Hell, even Joel Osteen is telling Wolf that Romney is a "real Christian".



It's funny how suddenly protective all of us get over someone we never would've picked in the first place.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on June 12, 2012, 03:18:02 PM
Like I said in an earlier post, I'm not choosing this early.  We still have a WHOLE summer to see how this plays out.  Hell, I might abstain from voting for the Pres.

I sure won't vote for someone who constantly changes his views on opinions to suit his political whim.  Neither of them.  But the Etch-A-Sketch candidate is sure not looking any better than the current occupant.

Wasn't Dubya a businessman also?.....we all know how that one turned out.  Just because you are a businessman doesn't mean you know how to run the economy.  Look at Clinton.  A lawyer.  He left office with a surplus.

Bush did manage to turn around a budding recession he inherited.  Bush also got to face some natural and man-made catastrophes never faced by any other president.  That's always conveniently forgotten in the double-speak about debt, deficit, and the overall economy.

QuoteThat what I most dislike about Romney. It is hard to believe he is the nominee. I would have thought the republican party would not have fallen for a guy like him.

Did you vote for Kerry in '04?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on June 12, 2012, 03:18:15 PM


It's funny how suddenly protective all of us get over someone we never would've picked in the first place.


Happens after the primaries are over every four years.

"That baby isn't near as ugly as it looked two weeks ago"
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on June 12, 2012, 03:36:32 PM
Happens after the primaries are over every four years.

"That baby isn't near as ugly as it looked two weeks ago"

It gets personal over someone chosen for us.  "Well shoot, guess I gotta stick up for that sorry-assed bastard after all."


Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on June 12, 2012, 03:38:33 PM
It gets personal over someone chosen for us.  "Well shoot, guess I gotta stick up for that sorry-assed bastard after all."



That's how I felt about McCain.  Exactly.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on June 12, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
That's how I felt about McCain.  Exactly.

No matter who "wins" I'll still say; "they're spending my money on freaking what?"

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on June 12, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
That's how I felt about McCain.  Exactly.

That's the great thing about this country.  You can vote or not vote.  If you vote, you are always choosing the lesser of two evils unless you are weak in your convictions.  If you choose not to vote you have chosen either not to pollute the race with your indifference, or to relinquish your political responsibilities to others.

Because of the history of my family, and my personal beliefs, I will always be one of the first at the polls, and vote, even if it is a vote for the lesser of two evils.  I will always be critical of a leader, even if he is the candidate of my choosing, because that too is my duty.

Romney is an imperfect candidate who has demonstrated evolving positions on issues, but he demonstrates a track record, ethic, and ability that is far superior to President Obama, in fact there really isn't a comparison. 

If President Obama does indeed win, it will be painful to watch him and the country suffer through this mess for four more years.  If Romney wins, it will most likely mean a Hillary victory in 2016-20.  She is cunning and smart and I have confidence in her too, so the lesser of the two evils is clear.  4-8 years of Romney, then 4-8 years of Clinton vs. 4 years of the same, and who knows what after that??

In my mind it's 8-16 years of recovery and prosperity (as their track-records would indicate), beats 4 years of blame and uncertainty and then ????


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on June 12, 2012, 04:06:22 PM
That's the great thing about this country.  You can vote or not vote.  If you vote, you are always choosing the lesser of two evils unless you are weak in your convictions.  If you choose not to vote you have chosen either not to pollute the race with your indifference, or to relinquish your political responsibilities to others.


Agreed.  It's rare that I miss an election and I have never missed a presidential election and can't recall missing congressional, senate, or state elections.  I'm trying to think, but I don't think I've missed a mayoral and council election either.

I do try to vote on bond issues, but sometimes those happen if I'm out of town or I simply don't know about them until the last minute.

I had a brother in law who used to piss and moan about the state of government but he refused to even vote.  Sorry, not interested in listening to someone who doesn't even take an active role in the process.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

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Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 12, 2012, 03:08:50 PM
That what I most dislike about Romney. It is hard to believe he is the nominee. I would have thought the republican party would not have fallen for a guy like him.
For the love of decency, stop it. Your overt disdain for Obama less than four years ago destroys ANY credibility you have in assessing the strengths and weaknesses of any candidate. Obama is a liar, campaign cheat, and race baiter. Those are YOUR words of the candidate you have the gall to now champion over Romney? Your level of audaciousness is eclipsed only by your sickening wagon-training. Quite frankly, why do you support a liar, campaign cheat, and race baiter for president? Because your party told you to? And if it is, you have the gall to question the motives of those voting for Romney?

And whether you like it or not, I will continue to hammer you over the head with YOUR WORDS no matter how often you choose to make the messenger (me) look. After all, there are those unknown moderates in here that may not know the character of Obama, and indeed the personal histories of those who support him.

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Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on June 12, 2012, 04:17:34 PM

I had a brother in law who used to piss and moan about the state of government but he refused to even vote.  Sorry, not interested in listening to someone who doesn't even take an active role in the process.

I'm guessing at the percentage but if you go by that rule, you might ignore about 80 to 85% of the population in Oklahoma.

What is the percentage to ignore here in Oklahoma?

Red Arrow

Quote from: Townsend on June 12, 2012, 03:38:33 PM
It gets personal over someone chosen for us.  "Well shoot, guess I gotta stick up for that sorry-assed bastard after all."

My sorry-assed bastard is better than your sorry-assed bastard.
 

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: guido911 on June 12, 2012, 04:20:10 PM

Quite frankly, why do you support a liar, campaign cheat, and race baiter for president?



How did this suddenly change to Inhofe and George Bush?? 

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 12, 2012, 07:12:48 PM
How did this suddenly change to Inhofe and George Bush?? 

You have an overactive imagination.
 

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Red Arrow on June 12, 2012, 08:12:29 PM
You have an overactive imagination.


Apparently not - I missed the transition completely!

I hate it when that happens....
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Hey!  There's a basketball game on with an Oklahoma team playing for some NBA final thing??  Who woulda thought??

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.