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TULSA'S WATER GOES DOWN THE DRAIN!

Started by Teatownclown, July 06, 2012, 07:07:34 PM

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shadows

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 07, 2012, 11:06:01 PM
You must have Ozone Vision. 

I have seen the city up close and from many miles and the Ozone Cloud is not visible.  There is no dome of visible Ozone over Tulsa.  When the visibility sucks, it sucks all over - all over North East Oklahoma.  When the visibility over N.E. Oklahoma is good, it is also good over Tulsa.
Look west from 412 from the east shore of the ancient inland sea that formed the basin Tulsa is located in from 5 miles out.  On days the winds are calm and the red rays of the setting sun illuminate the dome of ozone over the city it is very hard to not be aware of it.  It can be photographed very easy.     
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

shadows

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on July 09, 2012, 02:26:22 PM

One of the friends did a whole house "gut and rebuild".  Down to the studs.  Whew!  Massive job.  New everything all around.

One might be tempted to think back with nostalgia on the "good ole days" when construction was SO much better... well, some of the things in this 1921 place were downright scary!  They cut corners then as much as anyone today.  Several places in the house where they ran out of full length 2 x 4 for stud wall, so just took 3 shorter pieces, nailed them together end to end until they got the right length.  Ahhhh, it will be behind plaster, so no one will ever know...


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After WWII there had been no building of homes except for military purposes with standard materials except with a priority rating.  One of the major lumberyards did splice the lumber as drop-offs were exempt from the MRO.  The struggle for finding housing increased among the war brides to where anything with a roof was considered live able.  The splicing of the lumber was approved by the FHA inspectors.  There was a millionaire owner of a major lumber yard who was said spent his spare time straitening bent nails to sell.  His lumberyard financed several builders.

Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Red Arrow

Quote from: shadows on July 14, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
Look west from 412 from the east shore of the ancient inland sea that formed the basin Tulsa is located in from 5 miles out.  On days the winds are calm and the red rays of the setting sun illuminate the dome of ozone over the city it is very hard to not be aware of it.  It can be photographed very easy.     


Please take a picture and post it.  I have flown to Tulsa from Pryor at about 1000 ft above the ground around sunset more times than I care to count and have not observed your dome.  It gets hazy but it is not concentrated over Tulsa.  It is area wide.
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 14, 2012, 06:26:04 PM
Please take a picture and post it.  I have flown to Tulsa from Pryor at about 1000 ft above the ground around sunset more times than I care to count and have not observed your dome.  It gets hazy but it is not concentrated over Tulsa.  It is area wide.

He's been inhaling the pink gas again....

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on July 14, 2012, 06:28:14 PM
He's been inhaling the pink gas again....

Maybe that is what he is seeing.  Pink gas induced smog dome.
 

shadows

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 14, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Maybe that is what he is seeing.  Pink gas induced smog dome.
By the concretion of matter in layers such matter restricts the line of sight at the zero level whereas the deviating from the zero level of sight to a 1000 feet breaks up this visibility bond of the gases mater as it reduces the molecules by scattering them by vision.  The line of sight is at the maxim as the molecules of gas are at gathered at rest and one is looking through their mass instead of layers at 1000 feet.

That is what makes the pink gas so dangerous when it is concentrated within the city hall and one cannot focus on all the aspects effecting the citizen.
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Hoss

Quote from: shadows on July 14, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
By the concretion of matter in layers such matter restricts the line of sight at the zero level whereas the deviating from the zero level of sight to a 1000 feet breaks up this visibility bond of the gases mater as it reduces the molecules by scattering them by vision.  The line of sight is at the maxim as the molecules of gas are at gathered at rest and one is looking through their mass instead of layers at 1000 feet.

That is what makes the pink gas so dangerous when it is concentrated within the city hall and one cannot focus on all the aspects effecting the citizen.


You need to stay out of the heat.

Red Arrow

Quote from: shadows on July 14, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
By the concretion of matter in layers such matter restricts the line of sight at the zero level whereas the deviating from the zero level of sight to a 1000 feet breaks up this visibility bond of the gases mater as it reduces the molecules by scattering them by vision.  The line of sight is at the maxim as the molecules of gas are at gathered at rest and one is looking through their mass instead of layers at 1000 feet.

That is what makes the pink gas so dangerous when it is concentrated within the city hall and one cannot focus on all the aspects effecting the citizen.


Play the Twilight Zone theme to yourself.
 

Ed W

Meanwhile, on the surface of our nearest star:

"According to an article on Space.com, "The sun unleashed a huge flare Thursday (July 12), the second major solar storm to erupt from our star in less than a week." The X-class sun storm, the most powerful type of flare the sun can have, according to the article, peaked at 12:52 pm EDT and was significantly more powerful than the flare that erupted on July 6."

Read more: http://www.capitolcolumn.com/news/major-solar-storm-heads-towards-earth/#ixzz20hN0G5k7

We're doomed.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

nathanm

To be fair, there are times when it looks like there's something of a haze over Tulsa when you're out where 412 and 44 split. The sight line was a lot better before they put in the Creek. Temperature inversions trap particulate matter near the surface on occasion. There's nothing terribly conspiratorial about it. I wouldn't call it a dome, though. It's more like morning fog in a valley.

If you want to see air pollution, try flying into LA.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on July 15, 2012, 10:20:08 AM
To be fair, there are times when it looks like there's something of a haze over Tulsa when you're out where 412 and 44 split. The sight line was a lot better before they put in the Creek. Temperature inversions trap particulate matter near the surface on occasion. There's nothing terribly conspiratorial about it. I wouldn't call it a dome, though. It's more like morning fog in a valley.

If you want to see air pollution, try flying into LA.

From 1000 ft it's easy to see it encompasses more than the immediate Tulsa area unless you consider Okmulgee, Haskell, Bristow, Claremore, Pryor, Collinsville... part of the immediate Tulsa air pollution.  Winter time visibilities are often clear (no haze) to the horizon.  In the summer the visibility is good if you get 20 miles.  I learned to fly near Norfolk, VA.  Summer visibilities there were considered good if they were 6 miles or more.  All of this is down low stuff, a few thousand feet above ground. 

Been to LA.  It's more of a brownish haze than I see over Tulsa. 
 

shadows

#56
Quote from: Ed W on July 15, 2012, 08:43:42 AM
Meanwhile, on the surface of our nearest star:

"According to an article on Space.com, “The sun unleashed a huge flare Thursday (July 12), the second major solar storm to erupt from our star in less than a week.” The X-class sun storm, the most powerful type of flare the sun can have, according to the article, peaked at 12:52 pm EDT and was significantly more powerful than the flare that erupted on July 6."
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The eruptions of our star galaxy in the past have caused many phenomenal disturbing effects in the radio wave spectrum.  Such eruptions in the past has been used by the armatures in conducting experiments in the radio frequencies when the “skip is in”, which aborts the “line of sight theory”.  The sun flairs may or could be associated with the planets aligning in December of this year held by the gravitational tether(cannot be explain even by theory)affixed to the sun.

Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

Red Arrow

#57
Quote from: shadows on July 15, 2012, 04:38:20 PM
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The eruptions of our star galaxy in the past have caused many phenomenal disturbing effects in the radio wave spectrum.  Such eruptions in the past has been used by the armatures in conducting experiments in the radio frequencies when the "skip is in", which aborts the "line of sight theory".  The sun flairs may or could be associated with the planets aligning in December of this year held by the gravitational tether(cannot be explain even by theory)affixed to the sun.

Amateur (Ham) Radio Operators? Sun activity affects the skip but lower frequencies can bend over the line of sight anyway.  My dad was a Ham and regularly talked all over the world.

Edit:
I just went and looked at his homebrew (nothing to do with beer) transmitter.  His favorite bands were 15, 20, and 40 Meters.  I remember that back east the club he belonged to had a net on 6 meters.  When they were working DX (foreign countries) contests, the club members would announce on the net if a new country was on a particular frequency.  I knew most of the code at one time but never got my license.
 

Ed W

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 15, 2012, 06:11:40 PM
Amateur (Ham) Radio Operators? Sun activity affects the skip but lower frequencies can bend over the line of sight anyway.  My dad was a Ham and regularly talked all over the world.

Edit:
I just went and looked at his homebrew (nothing to do with beer) transmitter.  His favorite bands were 15, 20, and 40 Meters.  I remember that back east the club he belonged to had a net on 6 meters.  When they were working DX (foreign countries) contests, the club members would announce on the net if a new country was on a particular frequency.  I knew most of the code at one time but never got my license.

Nerd alert!
Even higher frequencies will bounce off the troposphere or ionosphere under the right conditions.  I've used a 25 watt 10 meter transceiver to talk to both coasts from my driveway when conditions were right, but when the band shut down, I couldn't reach Collinsville.

VHF and UHF will experience a phenomena called ducting, usually in the summer time.  A signal can bounce back and forth in the duct, emerging somewhere far away.  I was listening to a net in Detroit one night when I was in Pennsylvania, with a signal so strong it almost seemed they were nearby.  And a friend experienced it with his television attached to a big Yagi antenna when he picked up Canadian porn on a broadcast channel one night.




Ed

May you live in interesting times.

heironymouspasparagus

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Quote from: Ed W on July 15, 2012, 09:25:15 PM

VHF and UHF will experience a phenomena called ducting, usually in the summer time.  A signal can bounce back and forth in the duct, emerging somewhere far away.  I was listening to a net in Detroit one night when I was in Pennsylvania, with a signal so strong it almost seemed they were nearby.  And a friend experienced it with his television attached to a big Yagi antenna when he picked up Canadian porn on a broadcast channel one night.



Waveguide for UHF....


Can't remember the call sign, but when I was a kid, had a crystal radio kit (probably still have it somewhere...) that I had put together that got a Chicago station most nights.  Don't remember liking what they played, but it was so fascinating listening to radio so far away, I just had to be there...

Seems like we could just once in a while get the 'X' up here, too.  But I may have been in Texas at the time...?

I know there are some CB stations WAY down south using skip that make it to Turner Turnpike from time to time.  Very hard to hear, but they are there....



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