How to Drive

[jambalyajoe]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

and I have never seen Biker Fox cause any sort of trouble in traffic, I have just never had a chance to bring him up in a post before so I had to take the opportunity.  

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=bikerfox&search=Search
http://www.bikerfox.com/

It seems the reason why Biker Fox doesn't seem to cause "trouble" in traffic is because he is in VIOLATION of the traffic laws.  Whenever I see him, he's riding AGAINST traffic, on the sidewalk, or on the median.  All violations of Tulsa Ordinance and the State Statutes.

Santa seems to be causing "trouble," because he is OBEYING the law, riding WITH traffic.  In all seriousness, C-Fodder, why don't YOU simply SLOW down?  If you guys haven't figure it out, the greens are timed for 25mph, NOT 45.

You know, courtesy and respect works BOTH ways.  Give respect.  GET respect.  Support yer local Santa.  SLOW DOWN.

If Santa's cycling techniques are so dangerous, wouldn't he have been run over a long time ago?   When was the last time Santa made the six o'clock news for either CAUSING a crash or being in a crash?  NEVER.

Really, the REAL problems are IGNORANT motorists simply annoyed at being detained behind some fat guy in red for all of TEN whole seconds, abusing 911, and equally IGNORANT cops like you, who blow their overtime and day off, just to bust Santa for not having his hands on the handlebars as he's trying to dry out his armpits.

Who gets the first trip to the County MORGUE after a duel between a bicycle and Hummer?  If there had been ANY serious disrespect of the traffic laws on Santa's part, X-mas would have been CANCELLED a LONG time ago.  

Perhaps you posted in jest.  But, NOBODY's laughing when IGNORANT views come from COPS.  With ALL due respect, Santa has NO more obligation, at whatever speed he choose, to stay off any GIVEN roadway than you do.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

jambalyajoe, Ed W, Breadburner, Biker Foxes and Paul Taes:I

jambalyajoe and Paul Tay are the same person...

Note from admin: Yup

[jambalyajoe]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

jambalyajoe and Paul Tay are the same person...

Yep.  Guess who the REAL fat guy is?  Remember, respect and courtesy works BOTH ways.  Give respect.  GET respect.

[SkratchySeal]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder


Even more importantly, when merging DO NOT STOP.  If you stop it makes it much more difficult to actually merge AND requires everyone behind you to stop.  When you finally do manage to merge you will likely hinder traffic behind you.  On ramps are provided to allow you to get up to highway speed and merge as easily as possible.  Whenever you can, do so and avoid stopping.  

I've always felt uncomfortable with the westbound BA onramp on 21st across from Borders.  That one is a hit or miss with me.  I avoid that onramp as much as possible.

The eastbound onramp next to the bookstore parking lot is a different story.  It gives you plenty of length to hit highway speed by the time you merge.

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


The other pisser is the folks who pull up to an intersection with a no left turn sign clearly displayed, then act as if they are blind and deaf as the cars behind them honk to move along instead of attempting an illegal left turn.

Haha!  I saw that yesterday on the way home on 15th & Lewis.  This vehicle was stopped in the intersection try to make a left turn, when that No Left Turn sign was visible.  I heard the truck behind him honk.  As I passed them from the opposite direction, the lady that was honking was flipping him off.  She looked like she was going to kill someone.  LOL!

[Hawkins]

Good post, cannon_fodder.

[Breadburner]

Here's a story for ya.....I was sitting on the deck at the Bru House about 3 weeks back anyway I turn around and look at the intersection, North bound traffic...An idiot had exited his vehicle at the light and approached Santa and tried to punch him...Santa did one of the best head and shoulder fakes I have seen....In the mean time the punchers truck takes off down Peoria,with the puncher chasing it...heh....He had forgotten to put his truck in park before attempting to give Santa a knuckle sandwhich.....Chalk on up for Santa...It made my weekend....

[jambalyajoe]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

Here's a story for ya.....I was sitting on the deck at the Bru House about 3 weeks back anyway I turn around and look at the intersection, North bound traffic...An idiot had exited his vehicle at the light and approached Santa and tried to punch him...Santa did one of the best head and shoulder fakes I have seen....In the mean time the punchers truck takes off down Peoria,with the puncher chasing it...heh....He had forgotten to put his truck in park before attempting to give Santa a knuckle sandwhich.....Chalk on up for Santa...It made my weekend....

Good grief.  Don't we ALREADY have ENOUGH violence on the 6 o'clock NEWS?  Do motorists BELIEVE in X-Mas ANYMORE?  I give UP.

So, Tulsa is lucky enough to have the FAT guy in red biking around loose because North Pole melted from global warming.  

Hey, wait just a minute.  You were at the Bru House?   Well, that explains EVERYTHING!  You were DRUNK.

Next time you guys see an UNIDENTIFIED bicycling object, aka Santa, pull over, stop, and call 585-5571.  You are WAY too sloshed to be driving and TPD Santa Task Force can't be far behind!

[Breadburner]

Sorry...I was not drunk......

[jambalyajoe]

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

Sorry...I was not drunk......

Right.  That's what they all say!  Tell it to the JUDGE!  But, it was a funny story.  Thanks for sharing.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by SkratchySeal


Haha!  I saw that yesterday on the way home on 15th & Lewis.  This vehicle was stopped in the intersection try to make a left turn, when that No Left Turn sign was visible.  I heard the truck behind him honk.  As I passed them from the opposite direction, the lady that was honking was flipping him off.  She looked like she was going to kill someone.  LOL!

Exact intersection I was talking about, latest I saw was Monday night, east-bound lanes.  I was in the right lane and heard the 2nd car in line honking at a white SUV doing the blind/deaf thing trying to turn north on Lewis.

[Ed W]

cannon_fodder wrote:

"While I understand and stated that cyclists have rights on the road, it would be courteous to try and avoid slowing down traffic. I biked to law school, work, or the bar building many, many days for 3+ years... so I feel your pain when people are bing jerks. However, more often than not I took side streets so as to not slow traffic down on Harvard and/or get myself killed."

I didn't take the original post too seriously.  But let's be clear about courtesy and safety.  Most lanes in the area are too narrow for a cyclist to share safely side-by-side with a motor vehicle.  The cyclist is safer if he rides in the right hand tire track rather than over against the fog line.  Riding far to the right encourages motorists to 'squeeze by' the slow-moving cyclist.  But when he's further to the left, they must wait and pass when it's safe.

Courtesy is nice, but it shouldn't trump safety.  Nothing in the law obligates any road user to do something he knows is unsafe.  So if you overtake some big guy grinding along uphill and into the wind, and he's riding in the right hand tire track, it could just possibly be me.  It's true that I am not a car.  I just weigh about the same.

[Rowdy]

So THAT'S what that funny stick is for on the left side of my steering wheel column....

[TURobY]

quote: Even more importantly, when merging DO NOT STOP. If you stop it makes it much more difficult to actually merge AND requires everyone behind you to stop. When you finally do manage to merge you will likely hinder traffic behind you. On ramps are provided to allow you to get up to highway speed and merge as easily as possible. Whenever you can, do so and avoid stopping.  

I wish they had thought of this at the Westbound on-ramp to I-44 from the BA Eastbound. Half-of-the-time, I can make it, but the other half of the time, the traffic won't allow you to merge.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by jambalyajoe

quote:Originally posted by Breadburner

Sorry...I was not drunk......

Right.  That's what they all say!  Tell it to the JUDGE!  But, it was a funny story.  Thanks for sharing.

Tell what to the judge....?

[sauerkraut]

Blinkers are not always wise to use. Drivers will offten try and cut you off, or turn in front of you, or speed up so as you can't change lanes if you signal- sometimes it's best to just change lanes without using the blinkers, and make your move before they can block you in. Thus, Sometimes it's best not to use blinkers. The key word here is "Sometimes". It depends on the driving conditions. or so it seems to me.