Mob in Tulsa 2

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

A lot more people carry a pistol than you might think...

I will second this statement.  I have seen occasional flashes of guns on well dressed folks  I never assume they are gangsters, just that they have a carry permit.  I am thinking of getting one myself.

[Conan71]

^^I highly recommend it.

[TheArtist]

Are you sure you should reccommend something like that if you really dont know the person?

I can occasionally get a reeeally bad mood swing. Bout once a year or two on average. I should never have a gun, when I am in that mode, I am not at all myself, its horrible. Hate to think what could happen.
Buildup of stress for some reason, coupled with a bad day, coupled with unthinkingly allowing your thoughts to go in a negative direction, coupled with crankiness from not having eaten/low blood sugar level,,, can all together add up to one insane artist. Then someone pull in front of me in traffic or something, and I have a gun? NOT a good mix.

Do any of you ever get that way, and wouldnt you worry about what could happen if you ever got in that mode and had a gun? Or is it just me? I think I am pretty level headed and even tempered compared to most.  Many more people seem far more hotheaded and short tempered than me and I can only imagine how it would be if they got in an even worse mood and had a gun. Seems to me that if I shouldnt have one, a whooole lot of others aaabsolutely shouldn't. And unfortunately, they often seem the kind of people who dont have sense not to.

[Conan71]

It's the people who don't have a conceal carry permit I worry about.  At least you know your personal limitations and boundaries.  If you don't feel you should own a firearm, I appreciate you being honest with yourself.

No, the OSBI check is not a fail-safe for every single person who might twist off and shoot someone else out of the blue.  However, most firearm homicides are caused by those without a CCP.

I think it simply adds an element of responsiblity to gun ownership.

[custosnox]

Guess I'll throw my three cents in on it.  I have always heard rumors of mob in the area, but never have come across anything that would trully lead me to believe that they are still around here.  

As far as the gun goes, yeah, all kinds of people carry nowadays, including myself.  But, next to no one carries on their ankle.  bungee something to your ankle and see how long it takes you to get it off.  Bad spot.  If someone is wearing one here, it is almost guaranteed that it is a "back up" and they have another somewhere else.  It is also most likely that they expect to be in some interesting situation to carry a back up.  I carry an extra clip, and if I ever need more then those 30 rounds, I'm going to try and get the hell out of there.

[KingMutt]

OK.  "A back up gun." That assumes you have a need for a primary gun.  I know some of you guys are lawyers, so riddle me this...why would a lawyer carry two guns?  I mean I could understand maybe if he worked for the DA or something like that. I know this Oklahoma and lots of people have permits. But seriously, why would a private attorney carry two guns?

Very very strange...

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by KingMutt

OK.  "A back up gun." That assumes you have a need for a primary gun.  I know some of you guys are lawyers, so riddle me this...why would a lawyer carry two guns?  I mean I could understand maybe if he worked for the DA or something like that. I know this Oklahoma and lots of people have permits. But seriously, why would a private attorney carry two guns?

Very very strange...

Do you really need an answer to that not to mention the fact it does not matter if he is a lawyer or not.....

[KingMutt]

Hey Breadburner:

Is there something wrong with my question?[]

Is it normal for someone who is not a cop to carry two guns?

From these posts, I see many people have permits, but almost all have said an ankle holster is a "Back up." So again, understanding and agreeing that many honest people legally carry a gun for self defense, why would a regular person carry two?

So to answer your question, I do not NEED an answer, I am just curious.  This whole thing strikes me as strange.  And, in all due respect, we are in Tulsa...not exactly an exotic town.

[custosnox]

quote:Originally posted by KingMutt

Hey Breadburner:

Is there something wrong with my question?[]

Is it normal for someone who is not a cop to carry two guns?

From these posts, I see many people have permits, but almost all have said an ankle holster is a "Back up." So again, understanding and agreeing that many honest people legally carry a gun for self defense, why would a regular person carry two?

So to answer your question, I do not NEED an answer, I am just curious.  This whole thing strikes me as strange.  And, in all due respect, we are in Tulsa...not exactly an exotic town.

Honestly, I really don't even know of any cops that carry a back up.  I've met one or two that carried a pocket gun as a back up, but that is obviosly rare in itself.  So, to answer your question the best I can, it is strange and out of place.  But then, he may just wear it for show.  To make people think that he is something he is not.  As I said before, keeping a pistol on the ankle is a really bad place for it.

[Conan71]

Odd piece of ankle jewelry, but that's a plausible explaination.  It's not common for civilians to carry two firearms, no.  But legal if you have a CC permit.  Some people are more paranoid than others.  

[zstyles]

I have a conceled carry permit and carry two guns with me...at all times..one on the shoulder and another on my ankle..and I am not in the mob lol